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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:45:26pm

Just fyi—I have WaPo, NYT, state site, and two local tv sites open for results. WMBF seems to be getting the numbers faster than anyone else.

wmbfnews.com

And so much for Nina Turner’s FABULOUS outreach to black voters for Bernie—

Preliminary exit poll

Black voters
Biden 60%
Bernie 17%
Steyer 14%

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:52:04pm

The founder of Trader Joe’s passed away at 89: theguardian.com

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:53:11pm

re: #1 BeachDem

That looks good. Joe is prone to gaffs but he knows governments and how they work.

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gwangung  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:55:14pm

re: #3 PhillyPretzel

That looks good. Joe is prone to gaffs but he knows governments and how they work.

Though his weak responses to Trump’s attacks on his son worries me.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:56:20pm

re: #3 PhillyPretzel

That looks good. Joe is prone to gaffs but he knows governments and how they work.

18 counties have some #s in—Joe leads in all of them (some 3-1). Hillary took every county in 2016—let’s hope Joe can as well. I know it will mean nothing with Super Tuesday right around the corner, but I’d love to see Bernie go down big time here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:59:57pm

moron

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:00:54pm

Also in the exit polls, Joe leads in every category/every section (race, age, ideology, most important issue, rather nominate a candidate who…) except age 17-29 (which is 11% of the vote)
washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:02:21pm
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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:04:39pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Does the moron know that Bloomberg wasn’t on the ballot here? His comment makes no sense—I know, quelle surprise.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:04:40pm

Biden is winning so big, there is a chance he might win all the delegates; Sanders is right at 15%. I look forward to seeing how the odds of winning the nomination change at 538 after the results are in.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:05:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:05:52pm
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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:06:35pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Have these idiots never followed an election before? They really do live in a parallel berniverse.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:08:19pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate

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All Trump cares about is getting a win he can use for his campaign.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:09:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:10:16pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden is winning so big, there is a chance he might win all the delegates; Sanders is right at 15%. I look forward to seeing how the odds of winning the nomination change at 538 after the results are in.

My response to a similar notion from last thread:

Pretty sure SDE viability is set at the local level.

I’m only basing that on the fact that I think I heard Steve Kornacki say on TV a bit ago that Steyer was going to get one delegate out of some probably godforsaken district which will make him eligible for one more debate, but I’m also not really sure about any of that because I’m extremely high right now.

It’s the weekend and there’s a pandemic spreading, everyone who isn’t literally doing extremely important public health and nuclear power shit deserves to be extremely high right now

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:12:38pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden is winning so big, there is a chance he might win all the delegates; Sanders is right at 15%. I look forward to seeing how the odds of winning the nomination change at 538 after the results are in.

But MSNBC has a poll up showing Sanders might be the only candidate in California to get over 15% Tuesday, which would net him hundreds of delegates. California is slow to count though, so it will be days before we have the final results.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:14:38pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

My response to a similar notion from last thread:

Pretty sure SDE viability is set at the local level.

I’m only basing that on the fact that I think I heard Steve Kornacki say on TV a bit ago that Steyer was going to get one delegate out of some probably godforsaken district which will make him eligible for one more debate, but I’m also not really sure about any of that because I’m extremely high right now.

It’s the weekend and there’s a pandemic spreading, everyone who isn’t literally doing extremely important public health and nuclear power shit deserves to be extremely high right now

Good point. Biden will get the lion’s share, but not all of the delegates.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:15:21pm

re: #17 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But MSNBC has a poll up showing Sanders might be the only candidate in California to get over 15% Tuesday, which would net him hundreds of delegates. California is slow to count though, so it will be days before we have the final results.

Yes California is slow to get a complete vote count BUT we do it competently! I still remember in 2016 when Carpetbagger Cenk was throwing a tantrum alleging the California SOS was rigging the count for Hillary and the SOS smacked that ass down!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:16:15pm

re: #18 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good point. Biden will get the lion’s share, but not all of the delegates.

My only problem with him getting all of them out of SC is then that will become a whole conspiracy theory

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:16:28pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes California is slow to get a complete vote count BUT we do it competently! I still remember in 2016 when Carpetbagger Cenk was throwing a tantrum alleging the California SOS was rigging the count for Hillary and the SOS smacked that ass down!

Yeah it’s not at all like Iowa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:17:00pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

My only problem with him getting all of them out of SC is then that will become a whole conspiracy theory

it’s already started:

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:17:24pm

Joe Biden is the headline for The Washington Post.
washingtonpost.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:20:22pm

Pete, Warren and Amy all got crushed tonight. If they don’t break out somewhere Tuesday, it’s time to hang it up.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:25:20pm

re: #24 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Pete, Warren and Amy all got crushed tonight. If they don’t break out somewhere Tuesday, it’s time to hang it up.

I’m really sad for Elizabeth there. I like her so much. A friend told me she is just too high energy, it makes her jittery. Dunno if that is how others see it, or not.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:27:06pm

re: #25 retired cynic

I’m really sad for Elizabeth there. I like her so much. A friend told me she is just too high energy, it makes her jittery. Dunno if that is how others see it, or not.

She has been endlessly trashed by the Berniebots. The DSA here in Los Angeles virulently hates her and endlessly trash her as a sellout.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:27:43pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s already started:

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Again I ask, have these morons ever watched election returns? The networks often call a state the minute the polls close if it’s a runaway. They are irredeemable.

And, it will really tork the orange thing off that his hatefest in Charleston, where he “suggested” his lemmings vote for Bernie?

Results thus far in Charleston county:

Biden 6,156
Bernie 2,475

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:28:36pm

re: #25 retired cynic

I’m really sad for Elizabeth there. I like her so much. A friend told me she is just too high energy, it makes her jittery. Dunno if that is how others see it, or not.

She’s a great Senator, and will continue to be. Many have run for President, but only 45 have taken the office over 230 years.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:30:25pm

Read on fivethirtyeight, that Biden’s people want Warren and Klobuchar to stay in the race and deny Bernie votes.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:30:54pm

re: #27 BeachDem

They are trying to make headlines where there are none. In other words they are trying to create a “man bites dog story.”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:32:35pm

Wow, Biden is crushing Sanders in SC. 54 delegates at stake. This could be a major blow to Bernie.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:32:54pm

Warren says she is in for the long haul.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:32:58pm

Updated Charleston county #s (the hatefest seems to have had a reverse effect)

Biden 9,379
Bernie 3,457

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:34:27pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I certainly hope so. I am getting tired of seeing all of those Bernie supporters at the train station trying to eliminate millionaires.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:34:43pm

CNN and MSNBC apparently are ignoring Warren’s talk, going with Sanders. Well. He is ahead of her. But they have disappearing her a lot lately, and I don’t like it!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:41:37pm

re: #34 PhillyPretzel

I certainly hope so. I am getting tired of seeing all of those Bernie supporters at the train station trying to eliminate millionaires.

I’m personally tired of watching his finger flail.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:42:23pm

I would not mind a Biden/Warren ticket. Not at all. Is her senate seat safe Dem?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:43:22pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

I would not mind a Biden/Warren ticket. Not at all.

Right now that combination is my “safe place”.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:43:50pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Good.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:44:45pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

I would not mind a Biden/Warren ticket. Not at all. Is her senate seat safe Dem?

Scott Brown had it before her, and MA doesn’t consistently vote Dem for state offices.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:45:35pm

A few days ago I wrote this sentence:

Furthermore, the promise of support from people who are so scared they can’t accurately evaluate something genuinely dangerous…a party who’s been hurting them for years versus a hypothetical scenario in which, if all the divinations are correct, Bernie Sanders Will Become Just As Bad As The Actually Bad People Halfway Through Bad Shit Right Now…in exchange for leftists who are bit grating but have accurately described a bunch of shit that’s been going on for decades, who are consistent and stable—this does not strike me as a good trade even if it was made in good faith.

And on the 27th David Brooks excreted his column, “Bernie Sanders Will Become Just As Bad The Actually Bad People Halfway Through Bad Shit Right Now, On The Basis Of Nothing.”

Note: that’s my sarcastic title

Or, as Adam Server more intelligently put it:

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:48:42pm

re: #41 The Ghost of a Flea

Is Brooks following you on LGF?

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:51:24pm

re: #40 Belafon

Scott Brown had it before her, and MA doesn’t consistently vote Dem for state offices.

Other than the fluke of Brown winning a special election against one of the worst candidates in history (sorry, Martha), Massachusetts hasn’t had a Republican senator since Henry Cabot Lodge won in 1946. I’d say the seat is pretty safe.

EDIT BECAUSE I’m an idiot—Brooke and Saltonstall were after Lodge—thanks, Ipsos.

Mass. does elect Republicans for state offices, but seldom federal.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:51:55pm

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Right now that combination is my “safe place”.

Really, really need a person of color on the ticket.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:52:11pm

re: #42 retired cynic

Is Brooks following you on LGF?

The man is easy to predict.

I swear on the bones of this robot, when I was writing that section is was thinking “David Brooks is totally the guy that spins this, ‘I can’t tell Whizzo Butter from a Dead Crab” both-sideism but I’m tired of referencing him.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:53:04pm
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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:53:14pm

re: #44 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Really, really need a person of color on the ticket.

And at least one person under 70 (I say that as someone over 70)

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:53:40pm

re: #45 The Ghost of a Flea

The man is easy to predict.

I swear on the bones of this robot, when I was writing that section is was thinking “David Brooks is totally the guy that spins this, ‘I can’t tell Whizzo Butter from a Dead Crab” both-sideism but I’m tired of referencing him.”

Do you follow driftglass then? You would appear to share some thoughts about David Brooks!

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:54:49pm

re: #48 retired cynic

driftglass’s tag line on his blog is “I Want Just Enough Socialism to Make David Brooks Weep Tears of Blood”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:55:12pm

MSNBC projects Steyer won’t hit 15% statewide, after pouring money into the state. Time for him to hang it up.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:56:04pm

re: #48 retired cynic

Do you follow driftglass then? You would appear to share some thoughts about David Brooks!

I read him, and yes we are definitely in agreement about Brooks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:57:55pm

re: #43 BeachDem

Other than the fluke of Brown winning a special election against one of the worst candidates in history (sorry, Martha), Massachusetts hasn’t had a Republican senator since Henry Cabot Lodge won in 1946. I’d say the seat is pretty safe.

Mass. does elect Republicans for state offices, but seldom federal.

Correct. That seat is staying Dem. Warren isn’t going to be the running mate. Think younger and PoC. I could see Harris, Val Demmings, or Stacey Abrams. All who ate ten years younger than Joe and from the constituency that just launched his comeback. Just commenting before the DBT show.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:58:37pm

re: #50 NO SMOCKING GUN!

MSNBC projects Steyer won’t hit 15% statewide, after pouring money into the state. Time for him to hang it up.

Money can’t buy familiarity and trust.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:00:51pm

re: #53 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Money can’t buy familiarity and trust.

But it sure bought a lot of direct mail and TV time.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:04:41pm

re: #43 BeachDem

Other than the fluke of Brown winning a special election against one of the worst candidates in history (sorry, Martha), Massachusetts hasn’t had a Republican senator since Henry Cabot Lodge won in 1946. I’d say the seat is pretty safe.

Mass. does elect Republicans for state offices, but seldom federal.

Um.

Edward Brooke held one of the Massachusetts Senate seats from 1967 to 1979, back when you could be black, liberal AND a Republican.

He won the seat from Leverett Saltonstall, who was also a Republican.

Which says nothing about whether or not it could go R today… but if a popular Republican like the current governor, Charlie Baker, ran for it? I wouldn’t count out the possibility.

I’d rather see Warren remaining useful and powerful in the Senate than in the VP chair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:04:59pm
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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:05:54pm

In every county with numbers up (all but two) Joe has either won or is leading, usually by 2, 3 or 4 to 1 over Bernie. My fucking county is one of the closest (currently Biden 3,765 to Bernie 1,907.) Will this shut the Berners I have to listen to every fucking day—probably not, but perhaps they’ll be a little less shrill.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:06:35pm

re: #57 BeachDem

It didn’t shut them up in 2016.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:09:58pm

re: #55 i(m)p(each)sos

Um.

Edward Brooke held one of the Massachusetts Senate seats from 1967 to 1979, back when you could be black, liberal AND a Republican.

He won the seat from Leverett Saltonstall, who was also a Republican.

Which says nothing about whether or not it could go R today… but if a popular Republican like the current governor, Charlie Baker, ran for it? I wouldn’t count out the possibility.

I’d rather see Warren remaining useful and powerful in the Senate than in the VP chair.

My bad—forgot about Brooke (and Saltonstall). Thanks for the correction.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:10:09pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:11:00pm

Just heard on MSNBC that Biden doing better than the exit polling, which will be grist for conspiracy mills. Projecting 500,000 votes cast, way ahead of 2016.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:11:11pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The new voting system in Los Angeles County clearly shows an alert when there is a race with more than 4 candidates at the bottom of the screen to prompt you to page down. After you vote it shows a confirmation screen and if you missed an office it shows a red alert prompt. After you’ve cast your ballot then it will print a paper ballot for you to review. After reviewing then you place it in the printer slot and it goes in the ballot box.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:12:30pm

LMAO not only at the Berniebots alleging cheating, but Tulsitwits are also saying she’s being cheated as well!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:12:52pm

Biden likely to be the delegate and popular vote frontrunner at the end of the night.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:13:41pm

I’m surprised that Steyer is in third place. How does a guy of whom frankly few people in SC would have heard, get so many votes?

I guess money does count.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:13:51pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:14:23pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

I would not mind a Biden/Warren ticket. Not at all. Is her senate seat safe Dem?

This. I think Biden may only serve one term. His VP will be the front runner. As a result we may have 12 years of a democrat in the WH. In other words, Warren for WP.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:14:27pm

re: #65 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m surprised that Steyer is in third place. How does a guy of whom frankly few people in SC would have heard, get so many votes?

I guess money does count.

He spent A LOT of $$ there.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:15:23pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait. So all these people that shop online, read the internet are confused by the word “More” as in more choices below? SMH.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:16:06pm

re: #61 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Just heard on MSNBC that Biden doing better than the exit polling, which will be grist for conspiracy mills. Projecting 500,000 votes cast, way ahead of 2016.

Assuming little or no rat-fucking, yes—those would be good Dem #s—(and should be encouraging for Jaime Harrison’s campaign!)

2016
Rep primary 740,881
Dem primary 370,904

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:16:19pm

Steyer is out…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:16:35pm

Just read on FB that Steyer is out!!!!!

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:16:58pm

Steyer out.

Good.

How much “support” did he buy that should have bolstered Warren or Amy or even given Biden an even bigger whomping of Bernie?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:17:27pm

re: #70 BeachDem

Assuming little or no rat-fucking, yes—those would be good Dem #s—(and should be encouraging for Jaime Harrison’s campaign!)

2016
Rep primary 740,881
Dem primary 370,904

And you know Joe or a key Joe surrogate will campaign for Jamie too.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:20:24pm

On 538, they are saying Biden even beat Bernie with “very liberal” voters in SC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:21:56pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:22:15pm

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

Just read on FB that Steyer is out!!!!!

Why quit now when Super Tuesday is 3 days away?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:22:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:22:37pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:23:08pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lost every county. Take a seat Peter.

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Interesting Times  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:24:02pm

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

Just read on FB that Steyer is out!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:25:02pm

I am hoping Tulsi finally decides to fucking give it up.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:25:03pm

I annotated the 538 graph of preferences, just to make things clear:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:26:03pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:27:43pm

I also think that Biden could go with Harris. No problem with this.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:28:42pm

I almost never engage trolls anymore but, as mentioned previously, I am extremely high today

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:29:59pm

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I annotated the 538 graph of preferences, just to make things clear:

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“White female Putin asset”

I think I love you.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:30:06pm

Steyer saying Lindsey Graham is a disaster and vowing to stay in SC, even though he’s not running for pres any longer. That could mean big bucks and help for Jaime!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:30:08pm
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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:30:35pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:32:06pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

I am hoping Tulsi finally decides to fucking give it up.

She’s irrelevant, but she might be drawing a tiny number of votes from Sanders.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:33:22pm

Oh yeah, FYI the Animal Style strain is 👨‍🍳💋👌

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:34:55pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

I am hoping Tulsi finally decides to fucking give it up.

She needs to go full goop and become a lifestyle brand

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:35:35pm
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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:37:58pm

re: #77 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Why quit now when Super Tuesday is 3 days away?

Maybe Steyer would prefer Biden?

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:38:48pm

On 538 election blog:

PERRY BACON JR.9:36 PM
What a huge, massive victory for Biden. It was comparable to the blowouts in South Carolina for Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016. It shows how differently black voters are viewing this primary than white ones. I think you will start seeing a real push for non-Biden moderate candidates to get out of the race as well as Biden receiving a lot of endorsements. I think this is a really big night — the Democratic Party might truly mobilize behind Biden and try to push him past Sanders.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:40:54pm

re: #96 retired cynic

On 538 election blog:

PERRY BACON JR.9:36 PM
What a huge, massive victory for Biden. It was comparable to the blowouts in South Carolina for Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016. It shows how differently black voters are viewing this primary than white ones. I think you will start seeing a real push for non-Biden moderate candidates to get out of the race as well as Biden receiving a lot of endorsements. I think this is a really big night — the Democratic Party might truly mobilize behind Biden and try to push him past Sanders.

Dear God, I hope so. I would really rather have someone not an old white male - Klobuchar, being from Minnesota, would have my vote - but I’d take Biden over Bernie 11/10 any day.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:42:16pm

re: #96 retired cynic

On 538 election blog:

PERRY BACON JR.9:36 PM
What a huge, massive victory for Biden. It was comparable to the blowouts in South Carolina for Obama in 2008 and Clinton in 2016. It shows how differently black voters are viewing this primary than white ones. I think you will start seeing a real push for non-Biden moderate candidates to get out of the race as well as Biden receiving a lot of endorsements. I think this is a really big night — the Democratic Party might truly mobilize behind Biden and try to push him past Sanders.

If the establishment really wants to stop Sanders, consolidating in favor of Biden is the only logical move.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:42:34pm

From my friend TL:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:43:26pm

re: #98 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the establishment really wants to stop Sanders, consolidating in favor of Biden is the only logical move.

Biden/Warren with Harris as AG.

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mmmirele  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:43:58pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

She needs to go full goop and become a lifestyle brand

She’s already the member of a Hindu cult. See “Jagadguru* Chris Butler.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:48:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:49:57pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:50:25pm

re: #85 I Would Prefer Not To

I also think that Biden could go with Harris. No problem with this.

Politically that makes no sense at all. The VP needs to be from a state that’s in play.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:51:10pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

Politically that makes no sense at all. The VP needs to be from a state that’s in play.

Stacy Abrams.

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Skip Intro  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:51:55pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is Larry Kudlow though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:52:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:55:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:02:02pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:06:22pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:06:37pm
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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:09:56pm

Same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:10:54pm
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Romantic Heretic  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:15:03pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nor black ones either.

Ben Carson doesn’t count,

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:17:04pm

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I annotated the 538 graph of preferences, just to make things clear:

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How do you get Buttigieg as being middle-aged? He’s only 38 years old - literally only three years above the minimum age to qualify as President - if he somehow wins, he would be a full 10 years younger than Barack Obama when he entered the White House.

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:18:19pm

re: #80 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Lost every county. Take a seat Peter.

That’s two in a row that he’s lost every county in SC (well, Bamberg’s not in yet, and Pickens is sort of close). And Joe, according exit polls even won with very liberal and every age group except 17-29. Hey, Bernie, THERE’S THAT US you’re always yelling about.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:18:56pm

re: #115 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

How do you get Buttigieg as being middle-aged? He’s only 38 years old - literally only three years above the minimum age to qualify as President - if he somehow wins, he would be a full 10 years younger than Barack Obama when he entered the White House.

If elected, Pete would be the youngest President EVER. JFK was the youngest elected (43) and Teddy Roosevelt the youngest to become President (42) after McKinley was assassinated.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:19:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:20:06pm

re: #115 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

How do you get Buttigieg as being middle-aged? He’s only 38 years old …

Yes, middle-aged. Hate to break it to anyone here over thirty… but you’ve entered the middle third of your life.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:21:04pm

Thread

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:21:09pm

It was barely a week ago that so many here were MOANING & GROANING that Bernie would take it all!

Are you feeling better now?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:22:17pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

Politically that makes no sense at all. The VP needs to be from a state that’s in play.

Its about racial balance; we need the African-American vote to rebound.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:24:16pm

re: #121 The Pie Overlord!

It was barely a week ago that so many here were MOANING & GROANING that Bernie would take it all!

Are you feeling better now?

Bernie still has a shot at winning a huge victory in California Tuesday. But now there is a clear option anti-Sanders voters can coalesce around.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:24:31pm

re: #121 The Pie Overlord!

Are you feeling better now?

Not much, frankly. There’s a lot of BernieBots out here on the coast. I don’t plan to vote for Bernie on Tuesday, but there are plenty of people who will.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:25:15pm

Trump gropes & puts his wet mouth on the USA flag like it was a common Ivanka.
In spoiler tags because ewwww.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:26:07pm

If you follow ANY expert on pandemic epidemiology. Follow Dr. Madad. The fact that she is not in that room in DC says volumes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:26:08pm

re: #119 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, middle-aged. Hate to break it to anyone here over thirty… but you’ve entered the middle third of your life.

My grandmother was just entering the final third of her life when she was my current age (70). Some media idiot, Geraldo Rivera iirc, said that “70 is the new 50.” If so, 50 must have really sucked in the old days.

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Skip Intro  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:27:16pm

re: #114 Romantic Heretic

Nor black ones either.

Ben Carson doesn’t count,

Carson’s there in case an expert on storing grain in pyramids is needed.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:27:26pm

More trivia: Elizabeth Warren is exactly 1 day younger than I am (born June 22, 1949).

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:27:33pm

re: #124 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Not much, frankly. There’s a lot of BernieBots out here on the coast. I don’t plan to vote for Bernie on Tuesday, but there are plenty of people who will.

And the non-Bernie people have a lot of choices to split their support, allowing him to win.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:28:13pm

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

18 months younger than me

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:31:23pm
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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:40:00pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

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That would probably be me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:41:26pm

They are who we thought they were

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:41:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:42:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:42:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:46:44pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:48:18pm

I wonder what would have happened if Steyer put his money behind, oh… say Warren, instead of himself. Could he have gotten Warren over the 15% threshold in SC? I suspect so.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:52:07pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:52:38pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

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Finished Hunters; now time to get caught up on Better Call Saul.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:53:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:56:47pm

re: #139 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what would have happened if Steyer put his money behind, oh… say Warren, instead of himself. Could he have gotten Warren over the 15% threshold in SC? I suspect so.

Right on principle and I like Warren but maybe not the best specific example, in that Warren not only eschewed PAC money until last week, but pressured several other candidates in the race into making the same pledge. Candidates like Harris, and it remains a sore spot for a lot of her supporters because it helped drive her out of the race early and Warren dropped the pledge after they were all out.

Also, and not directly on topic but we don’t talk enough about how Harris made sure that her nationwide campaign staff all got a full month’s severance pay, and how that is/was apparently totally unheard of.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:09:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:14:16pm

DaFu…….??
I’m not sure what how to even respond to this.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:26:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:28:29pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:46:10pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:47:33pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

”It’s complete chaos,” a senior administration official said. “Everyone is just trying to get a handle on what the [expletive] is going on.”

JFC.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:47:37pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

Yes, I know, the so-called ideal of not wanting PACs, but in America elections mean money. Big money. Because our elections are as much about sport and entertainment as anything else.

Sugar-water (“soda”) companies spend billions of dollars a year on brand advertisement because name programming is paramount. Our brains are programmable and there are plenty of people out there who want to do the programming.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:54:28pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:58:16pm
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:03:40pm
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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:08:12pm

Welp—it was fun while it lasted. Now the candidates will run out of SC and that’s the last we’ll see of any of them. (except maybe Steyer, who said he’s staying.)

But we did have some mighty turnout—my county nearly doubled 2016

2016 Dem primary Horry 16,916
2020 30,311

Even with a few “chaos” votes, that’s a pretty impressive number

(2008 was 25,470 so we even beat that record)

That’s some GOTV!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:09:54pm

re: #152 Dave In Austin

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:11:35pm

My son just got to see this episode of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood:

So sad

A number of years ago, I watched the original FMA. Brotherhood is skipping some details from the original, and I need to figure out how to watch them together.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:14:24pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:17:58pm

What’s really going on in that room:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:23:51pm
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BigPapa  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:24:04pm

Holy shit. Maybe the Orange Bastard will go down.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:24:37pm

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:29:43pm

Here’s another reason I think the filibuster needs to end, at least for a little while: the only way the next Democratic president is going to get anything done without the Senate is to rule through executive order and ignoring laws, exactly like Trump.

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uriel  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:30:17pm

re: #1 BeachDem

Just fyi—I have WaPo, NYT, state site, and two local tv sites open for results. WMBF seems to be getting the numbers faster than anyone else.

wmbfnews.com

And so much for Nina Turner’s FABULOUS outreach to black voters for Bernie—

Preliminary exit poll

Black voters
Biden 60%
Bernie 17%
Steyer 14%

That’s… not good for Sanders.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:37:27pm

re: #163 uriel

That’s… not good for Sanders.

Works for me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:37:55pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

I am hoping Tulsi finally decides to fucking give it up.

Ratfuckers never give up. That’s not why they’re there.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:39:13pm

re: #165 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ratfuckers never give up. That’s not why they’re there.

The only way Tulsi drops out is if someone actually tracks down her funding sources.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:40:41pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:41:04pm

re: #160 BigPapa

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Holy shit. Maybe the Orange Bastard will go down.

25 bucks to Biden here tonight.

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BigPapa  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:54:21pm

I think black folk showed up and said ‘OK cut this dumb white shit out’

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KGxvi  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:59:29pm

re: #166 Belafon

The only way Tulsi drops out is if someone actually tracks down her funding sources.

Or someone at the Green Party calls her and tells her that the nomination is hers

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:59:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:02:31pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:06:02pm

re: #166 Belafon

The only way Tulsi drops out is if someone actually tracks down her funding sources.

Whoever does that will suffer polonium poisoning.

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BigPapa  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:10:01pm

It will be interesting to see who showed up to vote but that was Obama’s first election numbers. For Joe, against Trump? Or against Bernie?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:16:08pm

re: #174 BigPapa

It will be interesting to see who showed up to vote but that was Obama’s first election numbers. For Joe, against Trump? Or against Bernie?

Probably a little of both imo.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:16:58pm

Bernie’s made a big mistake crapping on the Obama legacy imo.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:26:35pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I’ve said, this is what stock markets worldwide are freaking out about. It’s not COVID-19 itself….it’s the clear economic impact it’s going to have on the global economy. The world’s factory has ostensibly shut down and it’s nowhere close to getting back to running at full capacity.

And that’s gonna leave a mark on corporate bottom lines in a whole host of economic sectors.

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Targetpractice  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:29:01pm

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

As I’ve said, this is what stock markets worldwide are freaking out about. It’s not COVID-19 itself….it’s the clear economic impact it’s going to have on the global economy. The world’s factory has ostensibly shut down and it’s nowhere close to getting back to running at full capacity.

And that’s gonna leave a mark on corporate bottom lines in a whole host of economic sectors.

Considering lead-times and limited notice meaning most companies reliant upon Chinese production likely haven’t built up large inventories in the event of work stoppages, odds are we’re gonna start hearing metal grinding upon metal right around spring, if not early summer, just in time for the greatest period of consumption to hit.

Fun times./////

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BeachDem  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:30:04pm

re: #174 BigPapa

It will be interesting to see who showed up to vote but that was Obama’s first election numbers. For Joe, against Trump? Or against Bernie?

Scroll down for the exit poll results.

washingtonpost.com

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BigPapa  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:31:32pm

My manufacturers and reps have been sending out emails. I have a project already missing a part due to Morona Virus. I told our purchasing person to no spend a cent on parts until the $ hits our account. Then, as soon as we get funding, buy the parts ASAP. I don’t want my guys to run out of parts sitting home.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:34:44pm

Bernie is ahead of Biden in delegate count. I so want Bernie to be gone so that I can feel free to vote for Elizabeth in Illinois.

There were Republicans who voted. Apparently although some followed Trump’s wishes to vote for Bernie, according to one report others who hated Trump voted for their preferred Democrat to face him — different favorites for different Republicans— but it wasn’t Bernie.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:34:46pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Considering lead-times and limited notice meaning most companies reliant upon Chinese production likely haven’t built up large inventories in the event of work stoppages, odds are we’re gonna start hearing metal grinding upon metal right around spring, if not early summer, just in time for the greatest period of consumption to hit.

Fun times./////

I agree; we’ll likely be feeling the full impact of this around spring/early summer. Will it cause a global economic recession? That I honestly don’t know, but it sure as hell has the potential to do so.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:44:57pm

Just the thought of every Hobby Lobby closing due to empty shelves…

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:46:29pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:52pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:03:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:41:25pm

This video, taken from North Korean TV, is a very well-done PSA on how to prevent the spread of COVID-19. It’s very professional, informative and delivered in clear language understandable to any non-medical layman.

DPRK TV: Common Knowledge to Prevent CORONAVIRUS Epidemic (engl. subt.)

Credit where credit is due.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:43:32pm

As a follow-up, this PSA from North Korea tells you how to wear and use a mask correctly and proper hand-washing instructions. Again, very professional and in clear, concise language that can be understood by everyone.

DPRK TV: How to Prevent COVID-19 Infection - Correct Mask Wearing and Hand Washing (engl. subt.)

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:48:17pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Oh yeah, FYI the Animal Style strain is 👨‍🍳💋👌

Sativa? Indica? Hybrid?
Inquiring stoners and all that

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CleverToad  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:48:57pm

Three votes for Warren in the Colorado primary from Toad Hall — I do like our mailed paper ballots, always drop them straight into the handy boxes rather than trusting the mail. Yes, I’ll vote for Biden in the final with very few qualms, more so if he picks Abrams or Harris or another of the talented kickass women of color as VEEP. I’ll vote for Bernie if I have to, teeth gritted. But I like Liz, dang it, and I’m tired of seeing her mysteriously erased from the coverage.

Primary was for Presidential candidates only. Will need to caucus next Saturday for Senate and other races, which seems rather odd.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:10:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:14:19am

An interesting thread:

TL;DR - if I’m reading that thread right, it means that COVID-19 was already spreading in the US before Beijing put Wuhan (and other major metro areas in China) under quarantine lockdown.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:20:36am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

An interesting thread:

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TL;DR - if I’m reading that thread right, it means that COVID-19 was already spreading in the US before Beijing put Wuhan (and other major metro areas in China) under quarantine lockdown.

So would you say it’s time to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?

/

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:24:23am

re: #189 Jebediah, RBG

Sativa? Indica? Hybrid?
Inquiring stoners and all that

It’s an Indica heavy hybrid from Connected Cannabis Co. I grabbed an ounce for Plaguewatch 2020

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:24:28am

This tweet makes me wonder.

About four weeks ago, I could feel myself coming down with something, and it felt like a respiratory illness (I’m pretty attuned to it, being an ex-smoker and I know very well what a bad bout of bronchitis feels like); slight fever, the usual early flu-like symptoms. Whatever it was, it was gone in about five days.

So now I’m wondering…..was it COVID-19? I (and a good many others, including medical professionals) strongly suspect that it’s been circulating here in Czech Republic for quite awhile, as we get veritable hordes of tourists from mainland China all year round and there’s a ton of Chinese businesspeople and students here in Ostrava as well.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:31:47am

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

It’s an Indica heavy hybrid from Connected Cannabis Co. I grabbed an ounce for Plaguewatch 2020

I went with a selection of old school strains this month. I have Chemdawg, Sour Diesel, Headband, and Trainwreck.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:35:48am

Sour Diesel should be the name of the shitty seedy Mexican weed I used to get long ago. It literally smelled like diesel.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:40:53am

But man, I loved the chocolate thai stick. I think CA weed killed it out but it was amazing, and rare.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:41:54am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

To add to that, this year, we saw an unusually heavy outbreak of respiratory illnesses….not influenza per se, but it was certainly enough that the two local hospitals here in Ostrava restricted entry in order to prevent transmission and a good many other hospitals throughout the country did likewise.

That outbreak began in mid-January.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:47:17am

I don’t think there are any strains around that compare to the Gorilla Glue strains. They are absolutely in a class by themselves. Now called Original Glue, New Glue and Sister Glue after a suit by the adhesive maker.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:49:03am
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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:03:46am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

This tweet makes me wonder.

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About four weeks ago, I could feel myself coming down with something, and it felt like a respiratory illness (I’m pretty attuned to it, being an ex-smoker and I know very well what a bad bout of bronchitis feels like); slight fever, the usual early flu-like symptoms. Whatever it is, it was gone in about five days.

So now I’m wondering…..was it COVID-19? I strongly suspect that it’s been circulating here in Czech Republic for quite awhile, as we get veritable hordes of tourists from mainland China all year round and there’s a ton of Chinese businesspeople and students here in Ostrava as well.

Figure what we’re going to learn is that this sucker was out in the wild for weeks or even months before it somehow hit a sort of “critical mass” in Wuhan.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:11:18am

re: #193 Targetpractice

So would you say it’s time to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?

/

Yummy, yummy goo…..

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:17:04am

re: #202 Targetpractice

Figure what we’re going to learn is that this sucker was out in the wild for weeks or even months before it somehow hit a sort of “critical mass” in Wuhan.

That’s what I think as well.

To this day, no one knows with absolute certainty where the 1918 influenza pandemic began; I say this because in 2008, the political scientist Andrew Price-Smith published data from the Austrian national archives which strongly suggested that the Spanish Flu outbreak began in Austria almost one year earlier, sometime in early 1917. This was from his book, “Contagion and Chaos”.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:25:03am

Oh Lord, this shit again

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SteelPH  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:26:43am

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

As if that somehow excuses the cringey ass shit he pulled recently.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:37:03am

Another reason I suspect that COVID-19 is running around the Czech Republic is that out of the several thousands of Czechs who may have been directly exposed in the last 60 days, they’ve done only 170 tests. In fact, the Minister of Health has explicitly - and publicly - refused to test Czechs returning from their spring break vacations in the affected regions of northern Italy.

No tests, no problems, no need to do anything. Place head firmly in sand up ass and apparently, the problem will simply disappear.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:38:26am

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Oh Lord, this shit again

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Here we go again with the “BERNIE MARCHED WITH DR KING!!!” BS, totally ignoring that Bernie long ago decided that “identity politics” wasn’t as jazzy as “economic inequality.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 1:57:17am

Looks like there’s an outbreak of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever in Ethiopia. As per Wiki, the mortality rate is between 10% to 40%; it occurs in Africa, the Balkans, the Middle East, and Asia. Tick bites, or contact with infected animals, is the transmission vector and it was first detected in the 1940s. Human-to-human transmission is via bodily fluids.

Link is from a British tabloid, unfortunately.

dailystar.co.uk

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Dread Pirate  Mar 1, 2020 • 2:00:23am

Washington state investigating possible coronavirus outbreak at a nursing facility

Washington state health officials are investigating a possible outbreak of coronavirus at a long-term nursing facility in which two people tested positive for the disease.
More than 50 residents and staff from the Life Care Center in Kirkland are experiencing symptoms, and will be tested for coronavirus, said Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, health officer for Seattle and King County.

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TarHellion  Mar 1, 2020 • 3:22:03am

A great night for Biden and the Democratic Party overall. Turnout coming in around 527,000 - just shy of 2008 numbers and far above 2016. Per fivethirtyeight here is one tidbit from the exit polls:

Very Liberal - Biden 44, Sanders 29; Somewhat Liberal - Biden 44, Sanders 23;
Moderate - Biden 59, Sanders 12; Conservative - Biden 52, Sanders 21.

Granted, voters identifying as conservative likely was the smallest group, but it does show some attempt at ratfornicating. One would think that Biden would have surpassed or at least matched his 59 percent total from the Moderate category.

As for where we go from here, Biden and others just can’t let Bernie roll up huge numbers on Tuesday. The rest of the primary calendar favors Biden. As much as I wanted Warren (1st choice) or Klobuchar (2nd choice) to succeed, it just hasn’t panned out.

Biden made as good a speech as I’ve seen from him after his win. He needs something to grasp onto from Tuesday’s voting. If it does come down to a choice between Biden and Sanders, Biden’s best case is to ask if Democrats want a 1972 McGovern-Shriver humiliation (along with steep losses in the House, Senate and Governors races) or a 2008 or 2012 Obama-Biden victory. A Biden-Harris or Biden-Abrams ticket would be quite formidable this fall.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 3:47:43am

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Right now [a Biden/Warren] combination is my “safe place”.

sounds good to me, but other have argued that Warren would be better for everyone in the Senate, especially as majority leader.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:07:14am

re: #128 Skip Intro

Carson’s there in case an expert on storing grain in pyramids is needed.

and on ordering office furniture

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:07:41am

Boris continues on his path to emulate Trump:

British PM Boris Johnson, girlfriend Carrie Symonds engaged, expecting baby this summer

She’s 31, he’s 55. Boris impregnated his second wife before he was divorced from his first wife. He only very recently reached the divorce agreement with his second wife.

The world would be a better place if our societies enforced that these guys must live alone for a few years in solitude.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:43:43am

When is Super Tuesday? Asking for a friend.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:43:50am

Yet another example of woo in Indian politics:

World nations should explore ‘Lemuria’, urges TN minister K Pandiarajan

A global-level excavation should be carried out in Lemuria (a hypothetical lost landmass) and the Tamil Nadu government has asked the Union government to take initiative in this regard, said Minister for Tamil Official Language and Culture K Pandiarajan.

Speaking to reporters in Nagercoil on Saturday, the minister said the sunken continent should be explored by the world nations. “The State government asked the Centre to explore Lemuria; it is also preparing a proposal for the ancient continent to be explored,” he added.

[…]

Lemuria was a popular topic in junk-books back when I was a kid. That there are people out there, especially ministers in governments, that believe this stuff is an indictment of humans.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:44:47am

re: #215 Shropshire Slasher

When is Super Tuesday? Asking for a friend.

Mostly on Tuesday, but there is early voting going on in some places, so “Tuesday” is sort of a generic term for… sooner rather than later.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:47:16am

re: #215 Shropshire Slasher

When is Super Tuesday? Asking for a friend.

Tuesday

//

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:49:51am

Oh it’s March 3rd! There are 52 to choose from.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:50:04am

OK, bring it.
It’s not a meteor, but it’ll do

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:52:08am

re: #214 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I can’t begin to imagine the David Cronenberg horror that it must be to have Boris Johnson crawling all over you. I retch just thinking about it.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:52:55am

re: #221 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

You don’t want to run your fingers through his lustrous mane?!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:55:03am

So, Biden leads Sanders by around 55,000 votes.
Where are the ‘Bros’ now about “the will of the people”?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 4:55:27am

Hi.

I am recovering from foot surgery since Tuesday. Gory medical details behind the hide bar.

I’ve been in bed since Tuesday except for very limited times (like going to the toilet). The details of the surgery are due to an unusual birth defect in my right foot in my third toe metatarsal. It cannot be corrected.

As a result, the Veterans Administration sent me to Scottsbluff Region West Medical Center for the surgery (removing a cone-shaped chunk of flesh about a half-inch across from the ball of my foot—the overlong bone has created something like a bunion or a Tailor’s bunion in the ball of my foot. According to the VA, it would only increase in size, so it had to be removed surgically. I have eight more appointments for follow up set by the VA at Scottsbluff.

Socialised medicine cost: $0, plus the VA will pay me travel pay for the sixty-mile one-way trip to Scottsbluff.

Bonus, the podiatrist in question is the same person who my wife sees for a much-less severe problem, so I already knew the guy when the VA made the appointment.

No flag observance post for March. There are no flag holidays in the Flag Code or statutes in the month of March. The Flag Code does say the flag should be flown on the day of a state’s admission to the Union, so today the flag should be flown in Nebraska (1 March 1867).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:00:13am

The Scottsbluff hospital also fitted my street shoes with an orthopaedic insert to push weight away from the ball of my foot and toward the arch of my foot to support my weight as my foot heals. It will take a few weeks.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:00:50am

I heard the Office Depot’s in Rome have been stocking up on papal shredders
wink, wink, nudge, nudge

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:02:59am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So, Biden leads Sanders by around 55,000 votes.
Where are the ‘Bros’ now about “the will of the people”?

Left off the “1” in front of that number.

But yes, Berners learning a lesson that their guy is not everybody’s guy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:05:07am

re: #227 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Left off the “1” in front of that number.

But yes, Berners learning a lesson that their guy is not everybody’s guy.

323,244 - 268,065 = 55,179

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:07:57am

re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I thought you meant in SC.


Joseph R. Biden Jr.
255,662
Bernie Sanders
105,070

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:08:35am

re: #211 dirkdigglerjr

A great night for Biden and the Democratic Party overall. Turnout coming in around 527,000 - just shy of 2008 numbers and far above 2016. Per fivethirtyeight here is one tidbit from the exit polls:

Very Liberal - Biden 44, Sanders 29; Somewhat Liberal - Biden 44, Sanders 23;
Moderate - Biden 59, Sanders 12; Conservative - Biden 52, Sanders 21.

Granted, voters identifying as conservative likely was the smallest group, but it does show some attempt at ratfornicating. One would think that Biden would have surpassed or at least matched his 59 percent total from the Moderate category.

As for where we go from here, Biden and others just can’t let Bernie roll up huge numbers on Tuesday. The rest of the primary calendar favors Biden. As much as I wanted Warren (1st choice) or Klobuchar (2nd choice) to succeed, it just hasn’t panned out.

Biden made as good a speech as I’ve seen from him after his win. He needs something to grasp onto from Tuesday’s voting. If it does come down to a choice between Biden and Sanders, Biden’s best case is to ask if Democrats want a 1972 McGovern-Shriver humiliation (along with steep losses in the House, Senate and Governors races) or a 2008 or 2012 Obama-Biden victory. A Biden-Harris or Biden-Abrams ticket would be quite formidable this fall.

One neat thing I liked that Biden did in his speech was to point out Jamie Harrison running for Senate there and Joe Cunningham who is an incumbent in a traditionally Republican held seat (It’s Mark Sanford’s old one)). Joe B is trying to actually grow the Democratic Party. That’s been one of the starkest contrasts for him and Sanders to me from the start. Ideologically I’m probably closer to Warren. I see myself as a believer in reform but I also want someone who knows how to get legislation done.

I think you’re absolutely right about a Abrams or Harris and I’ll throw another name out there even though she’s a little older but Val Demmings. I was impressed by her in the impeachment hearings and she’s from a swing state. However, Kamala and Stacey would both be great choices too that I would have no objection to. Biden’s always been a team player. I think it’s one of the things I genuinely like most about him. He’s going to listen to his advisers not be a loose cannon.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:09:23am

re: #227 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Left off the “1” in front of that number.

But yes, Berners learning a lesson that their guy is not everybody’s guy.

Yeah twice now he’s lost every county in South Carolina. South Carolinians now Bernie now. They’ve said no I think pretty overwhelmingly.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:10:01am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I heard the Office Depot’s in Rome have been stocking up on papal shredders
wink, wink, nudge, nudge

Pope Francis cancels third day of events amid mysterious illness (New York Post, yesterday)

Pope Francis has not been in public since Ash Wednesday. The Holy See calls it a “slight indisposition,” but does not say what he is ill with. It is his longest sick leave since he ascended to the Throne of Saint Peter. They say he is still working from the Santa Maria Hotel at the Vatican, and still celebrates daily Mass.

There was speculation on social media that the Pontiff fell ill after meeting with Iranian officials, but no respectable news outlet is reporting that. It was probably conflated with the news that the former Iranian Ambassador to the Holy See has died from Corvid-19.
Coronavirus kills Iran’s ex-ambassador to Vatican (Daily Sabah, February 27)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:11:36am

re: #229 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I thought you meant in SC.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.
255,662
Bernie Sanders
105,070

Come on, not even Berners think winning a single state’s popular vote equals the “will of the people”.
I actually completed typing that without breaking out in laughter

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:15:32am

Mr. Biden was not my first choice to advance as a candidate, particularly since he said he would only run for one term.

That said, I have no doubt he would serve admirably as President if elected. By the time of our primary on May 12, I imagine the candidate will be pretty much settled. Mr. Biden seems much more likely to me than Mr. Sanders to be able to affect downballot races.

Moreover, others currently in the primary if they cannot pick up steam such as Sen. Warren and the suspended Sen. Harris would make fine additions to his administration in various Cabinet posts. Massachusetts requires an election to replace a senator (not appointed by Gov. Barker), so if Warren is picked to serve, I imagine she would be replaced with another Democrat. As for Sen. Harris, I really want to see her as Attorney General to clean up this pile of coservacrap being left by Trump and Barr.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:17:11am

New coronavirus case confirmed at Tenerife hotel on lockdown

The Italian national, part of the same group as the four original cases at the H10 Costa Adeje Palace Hotel, has been in isolation in a hotel room since Feb. 24 and will be taken to hospital, the Canary Islands’ regional health authorities said, adding the Italian was “in good state of health”.

[…]

On Saturday, the fifth day of the hotel’s lockdown, some of the 130 guests who had been cleared to leave on Friday were seen exiting its grounds with suitcases.

Ok, I’m confused. The new confirmed case has only been in isolation in his room for four days. However, 130 of the guest have been “cleared” before yesterday. I would have thought that the “cleared” would have been uncleared if a new case arose in their hotel?

Continuing with the story:

More than 700 tourists remain inside waiting out a 14-day isolation period imposed on Wednesday.

Hotel guest Christopher Betts, from Leicestershire in England told Reuters British tourists were being swabbed for the virus on Saturday, the first time they had been tested. They had previously been given thermometers to check their own temperatures.

The story makes it sound like the newly-swabbed-on-
Saturday applies to British tourists? I assume the entire hotel would be swabbed.

And if the entire hotel had not been swabbed, how can those 130 people be “cleared”?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:17:11am

Here’s why I’m voting Biden Tuesday and decided to about a week ago. I have seen how Virginia has begun to pass more progressive legislation first hand. It was done by winning elections. Northam is probably personally more conservative than Warner, Kaine, McAuliffe, and Creigh Deeds(he’s the guy who to lost to Bob McDonnell in 2009). However, he also has the most Democrats in the legislature of either of those five. I believe that Biden can push a pragmatic progressive agenda with a strong Democratic majority in both Houses. I really think Biden wants to be a bridge to a new generation of Democratic leadership and won’t be egodriven. He’ll have capable people behind him.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:17:24am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Treasonous tRump has thoughts

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:18:33am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Man, if it was ever officially reported the Pope contracted COVID-19, the level of panic would be epic.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:19:56am

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Strikes me that everybody kissing the same ring might lead to problems.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:21:20am

I think the VP spot is Harris’ if she wants it. As Democrats get to know her and I count myself among them, they genuinely do like her. But she might find AG or even SCOTUS more to her liking, though I think Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson is likely to be a favorite for that. Being on the District Court for the DC is a huge flag to me and she’s relatively young too. She turns 50 this year but she’s been on the DC court since 2013 and she’s experienced. Plus, she’s already been impressing those in the legal community with some of her rulings.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:21:28am

re: #239 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Maybe the Pope can suffer for all of us so that we don’t get the Coronavirus?

/

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:21:57am

re: #235 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

New coronavirus case confirmed at Tenerife hotel on lockdown

Ok, I’m confused. The new confirmed case has only been in isolation in his room for four days. However, 130 of the guest have been “cleared” before yesterday. I would have thought that the “cleared” would have been uncleared if a new case arose in their hotel?

Continuing with the story:

The story makes it sound like the newly-swabbed-on-
Saturday applies to British tourists? I assume the entire hotel would be swabbed.

And if the entire hotel had not been swabbed, how can those 130 people be “cleared”?

This is a physician in the United Kingdom who gives calm, data-based updates about the novel coronavirus outbreak on YouTube. He notes in the latest video that people in Tenerife are doing things like wandering around into areas which are quarantined.

He gives the latest available information about the spread of the illness, the risks to people (yay, me for high risk due to tuberculosis), and other interesting tidbits.

COVID-19 Sat 29 Feb

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:22:56am

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Man, if it was ever officially reported the Pope contracted COVID-19, the level of panic would be epic.

Really hope it’s not true. This Pope means a lot to millions of people. Sometimes the hagiography I concede is way over the top but he has tried to bring Catholicism into the 21st century.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:23:35am

re: #242 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I believe one of the UK cases is of someone who came back from Tenerife. Not quarantined in Tenerife, but only returned from there.

The whole Tenerife situation sounds like it has been bungled.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:25:59am

Pete B btw I can seriously see being considered as Ambassador to the UN possibly or some place where he can use his multiple language speaking skills. I think the mistakes many people make when they design hypothetical cabinets are a couple things. They A) focus on who the most ideological person, B) ignore personality (I hate when Republicans say run government like a business but one thing is true that when you’re deciding on cabinet members, judges, agency heads, you do want someone that’s a good fit), and C) ignore background people(this one is understandable since I cannot tell you who the advisers to the candidates on many key issues are).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:27:16am

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Man, if it was ever officially reported the Pope contracted COVID-19, the level of panic would be epic.

One billion Catholics would descend on every Catholic church, shrine, and mission for round-the-clock prayer, trying to reverse the Will of God (tm).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:29:36am

re: #236 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Here’s why I’m voting Biden Tuesday and decided to about a week ago. I have seen how Virginia has begun to pass more progressive legislation first hand. It was done by winning elections. Northam is probably personally more conservative than Warner, Kaine, McAuliffe, and Creigh Deeds(he’s the guy who to lost to Bob McDonnell in 2009). However, he also has the most Democrats in the legislature of either of those five. I believe that Biden can push a pragmatic progressive agenda with a strong Democratic majority in both Houses. I really think Biden wants to be a bridge to a new generation of Democratic leadership and won’t be egodriven. He’ll have capable people behind him.

Plus Virginia has people in the legislature now who are far more progressive than in the past (Danica Roem comes to mind when she was elected in 2017 to the House of Delegates).

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:29:42am

Good morning!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:30:43am

re: #248 jeffreyw

A dove, a woodpecker, and a cardinal walk into a bar…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:30:56am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹🎃

One billion Catholics would descend on every Catholic church, shrine, and mission for round-the-clock prayer, trying to reverse the Will of God (tm).

Then, all drinking wine from the same cup during communion

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:31:17am

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Man, if it was ever officially reported the Pope contracted COVID-19, the level of panic would be epic.

Our Ambassador & her husband need to hold a vigil at his bedside

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:31:44am

re: #248 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

A chorus of “It’s *your* fault the seeds are not here yet!”

In a few minutes they will blame the jays as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:35:22am

re: #244 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I believe one of the UK cases is of someone who came back from Tenerife. Not quarantined in Tenerife, but only returned from there.

The whole Tenerife situation sounds like it has been bungled.

There is now one case in Nebraska. That person is being treated at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, a world-class facility for medical research.

State senator Megan Hunt has been dragging Gov. Pete Ricketts over his stance against “government schools” (read state universities and public schools) since he praised UNMC for their work (and Mike Pence for this boilerplate call to every state governor where coronavirus is found).

She does at the state level what Rep. Ocasio-Cortez does on social media at the national level (drags conservatives mercilessly).

As I noted a couple weeks ago, like it or not Twitter and Facebook are a thing now, and politicians are going to have to adapt to the new technologies. There ain’t no puttin’ the genie back in the bottle.

I can see Sen. Hunt having a bright future in the Democratic Party in the future.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:36:20am

re: #248 jeffreyw

Peace negotiations begin without the bluejay faction.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:41:50am

Speaking of social media, the state emergency management agency wants all public affairs officers in the state to start an official town public affairs Twitter account.

I’ve resisted doing so, on the grounds that my town is very small, most people do not have any sort of Internet or cell service, and we already have a “trap line” (a list of places we post official information: The village hall, the park, the Post Office, the general store, and the gun shop).

I also have contacts at the county and regional newspapers to place official information.

That keeps both the village and me off Twitter.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:44:03am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Plus Virginia has people in the legislature now who are far more progressive than in the past (Danica Roem comes to mind when she was elected in 2017 to the House of Delegates).

Yes, Virginia Democrats have grown more progressive diverse too. The Democratic coalition in Virginia comes from all walks of life and several countries. And the new legislators are effective.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:45:03am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:45:54am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:53:23am

(video, 8:40)

Utah Outcasts goes after David Barton’s assertions on white people ending slavery in the USA (one of the last countries to do that).

Caution for coarse language and enraging disingenuous conservative and Christian arguments.

David Barton on White People Ending Slavery

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:55:39am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:57:56am

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(video, 8:40)

Utah Outcasts goes after David Barton’s assertions on white people ending slavery in the USA (one of the last countries to do that).

Caution for coarse language and enraging disingenuous conservative and Christian arguments.

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Mexico did it 13 years after declaring its independence from Spain.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:58:30am

re: #260 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Chuck Todd doing his best to be a Susan Collins:

Chuck Todd: Trump’s tone ‘changed a lot’ after 1st coronavirus death in the US

Doesn’t change the fact that he called it a hoax, Chuck but ya knew that didn’t ya?

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:58:46am

Honestly didn’t notice until I saw this and I watched a lot of MSNBC last night.

Enjoy your retirement Chris.

I am sure this is just a mild, one-time punishment, but the writing is on the wall

They’ll probably give Brian Williams his slot but I would like someone partisan in that hour.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 5:59:02am

Despite what HHS Secretary Azar said about not being able to guarantee the cost if a Corvid-19 vaccine is developed, the PPACA guarantees that vaccinations are 100% covered by insurance plans and government single payer plans like Medicare and CHAMPUS/Tricare.

The only people who would have to pay free-market capitalist extortion prices for a life-preserving vaccine are those who did not obtain insurance under the ACA (read all the conservatives trying to own the libs by dying from bankruptcy because they won’t get anything named by the GOP after Obama, nevermind that the ACA is not insurance, it’s regulations on the insurance markets).

Dying for billionaires to own the libs seems deranged to me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:01:06am

re: #263 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Honestly didn’t notice until I saw this and I watched a lot of MSNBC last night.

Enjoy your retirement Chris.

I am sure this is just a mild, one-time punishment, but the writing is on the wall

They’ll probably give Brian Williams his slot but I would like someone partisan in that hour.

Video montage, 2:01

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:02:00am

re: #261 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Mexico did it 13 years after declaring its independence from Spain.

And the white people in Tejas being told by their Mexican government that they couldn’t keep slaves was a big part of their grievances.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:07:01am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Video montage, 2:01

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wow, I’m cringing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:07:02am

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Doesn’t change the fact that he called it a hoax, Chuck but ya knew that didn’t ya?

When holding a national press conference about a natural disaster, it is incredibly irresponsible to put the word “hoax” in the same conference as the disaster you’re trying to describe.

In Trump’s case it’s intentional: He’s trying to tie Democrats to taking him down over the disease, not that he doesn’t believe the disease is a hoax. The claim seems to be he thinks (or he’s simply trying to assert) Democrats want a whole bunch of people to get sick to take him out in November, not that Democrats and public health officials are upset at the poor response.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:07:26am

re: #266 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

And the white people in Tejas being told by their Mexican government that they couldn’t keep slaves was a big part of their grievances.

Yeah they really don’t teach that in school. I’m sure Santa Anna was an asshole but our perception of the Texas War of Independence is definitely skewed by popular history.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:09:00am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When holding a national press conference about a natural disaster, it is incredibly irresponsible to put the word “hoax” in the same conference as the disaster you’re trying to describe.

In Trump’s case it’s intentional: He’s trying to tie Democrats to taking him down over the disease, not that he doesn’t believe the disease is a hoax. The claim seems to be he thinks (or he’s simply trying to assert) Democrats want a whole bunch of people to get sick to take him out in November, not that Democrats and public health officials are upset at the poor response.

Of course, it’s irresponsible. And his dumbass defenders go oh “He meant the way the Democrats would use it against him is a hoax.” Motherfucks don’t even know what a hoax is. Now the idea that Trump actually won the popular vote and Mexican immigrants in California flipped into HRC. That’s a hoax but the shit that Trump gets called out on everyday is a result of his own actions of being the most unprepared man ever to be President by a landslide.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:15:36am

re: #254 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Peace negotiations begin without the bluejay faction.

Can you mediate? Yes, come around back after closing. I’ll make sure Red is here.
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:16:39am

Is it just me or was this year’s CPAC not part of the news at all? Typically is has a lot of coverage but if I wasn’t paying attention then I never would have known it was going on at all.

Hopefully they have crested.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:17:23am

Since the overwhelming majority of people here are not on Twitter or have Internet, this sailed over everyone’s heads in town.

It probably would have been better if there was an announcement in the county newspaper, Rep. Smith. (I couldn’t have gone because I am laid up over my foot surgery, but I could have informed everyone else here.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:19:43am

re: #273 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Is it just me or was this year’s CPAC not part of the news at all? Typically is has a lot of coverage but if I wasn’t paying attention then I never would have known it was going on at all.

Hopefully they have crested.

Corona and I think coming on the weekend of the SC Dem primary. I do hope it’s on its last legs though. Pretty big joke to have the German young woman who they’re pushing as the Anti-Greta who has praised Stefan Molyneaux there but not their last nominee for POTUS but then again Schlaap disinvited Mitt and I’m sure Mitt is none the happier. CPAC is a circle jerk and after showing he had independence probably the last place Mitt wants to be. Not an endorsement of Mitt but more that CPAC is a cult.

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steve_davis  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:22:24am

re: #57 BeachDem

In every county with numbers up (all but two) Joe has either won or is leading, usually by 2, 3 or 4 to 1 over Bernie. My fucking county is one of the closest (currently Biden 3,765 to Bernie 1,907.) Will this shut the Berners I have to listen to every fucking day—probably not, but perhaps they’ll be a little less shrill.

I actually found a guy at the Sam’s Club in Easley who also had his “I Voted” sticker on his jacket. “Glad to see another Democrat in here,” I said. His face kind of lit up. It’s like seeing an Episcopal decal on the back of somebody’s car in a strange place. Gives you that morale-building sense of camaraderie.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:27:22am

re: #120 Dave In Austin

Thread

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Yesterday I was talking to my friends, they live in San Anotnio and I was messing with them asking if they had their gas-masks ready (after I read that headline about 11 Corona cases in San Antonio). She works for a medical equipment manufacturer and they use masks and gloves and such to work with pieces of equipment that are either dirty or need a clean environment during assembly. So they have a regular supply of gloves and masks delivered all the time. She said they got a memo from the supply company last week that said they could only order masks if they had ordered them before, and only the type they had ordered before. The supplier would also only ship up to the number of masks they had ordered before, not more. So there is some rationing going on with the suppliers.

Also makes me wonder how many masks are/were made in Puerto Rico. They have/had a big medical supply manufacturing base I seem to remember. With the devastation that tRump is failing to help them with, I wonder how much better off in this situation we would be if he had gotten off his ass and helped them rebuild.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:27:30am

re: #273 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Is it just me or was this year’s CPAC not part of the news at all? Typically is has a lot of coverage but if I wasn’t paying attention then I never would have known it was going on at all.

Hopefully they have crested.

They’re in the news, especially FOX.
realclearpolitics.com (Real Clear Politics, includes video of Trump’s full speech, caution for Trump molesting the US Flag in violation of the Flag Code, 1:24:17)
At CPAC, It’s Now an All-Trump Show (Goes to the New York Times, where they note Senator Mitt Romney was specifically disinvited, yesterday)
Inside CPAC 2020: Trumpy Bear, drag queens and conspiracy theorists (Goes to the New York Post)

Yes, CPAC has drag queens.

Naomi Seibt: ‘anti-Greta’ activist called white nationalist an inspiration (Goes to The Guardian): she praises Canadian libertarian Stephan Molyeaux, scratch a libertarian, find a racist—My wife objects to that since she used to be a Libertarian Pary officer before switching to the Democratic Party because I corrupted her after we married).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:28:13am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:29:22am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Welsh?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:29:59am

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

More trivia: Elizabeth Warren is exactly 1 day younger than I am (born June 22, 1949).

Obama is 1 month and 3 days older than me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:30:09am

re: #276 steve_davis

I actually found a guy at the Sam’s Club in Easley who also had his “I Voted” sticker on his jacket. “Glad to see another Democrat in here,” I said. His face kind of lit up. It’s like seeing an Episcopal decal on the back of somebody’s car in a strange place. Gives you that morale-building sense of camaraderie.

In the 2018 election, I wore my “I voted” sticker on my jacket for weeks. (There are different stickers here for mail voters and polling place voters.) I got a lot of “why, you’re a Democrat” comments from locals.

That would be the same locals who put me in local office twice.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:30:12am

re: #276 steve_davis

I actually found a guy at the Sam’s Club in Easley who also had his “I Voted” sticker on his jacket. “Glad to see another Democrat in here,” I said. His face kind of lit up. It’s like seeing an Episcopal decal on the back of somebody’s car in a strange place. Gives you that morale-building sense of camaraderie.

I always like talking to our local precinct Dems when I vote. I just thank em for what they’re doing and ask about turnout. I’ll probably try to volunteer at my voting precinct again in the fall. I didn’t do it last year or in 2018 but I did it in 2017. Had a nice older guy that I worked with who was great at guessing who would accept our sample ballots. Of course, there’s my own Dad who likes to take the Republican sample ballot and then vote a straight D ticket.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:30:44am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Then, all drinking wine from the same cup during communion

It is Catholic practice to give out bread only during communion.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:31:04am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is not entirely baked into the stock markets and their ongoing convulsions/correction.

It’s the fact that the markets are likely to see a continued ripple effect across the economy and no one in the WH wants to admit that there’s consequences that will persist for months to come. You don’t just see 25% of imports drop out and not expect consequences down the line - higher prices for the goods that do get through (plus the tariffs that Trump continues to impose thanks to his idiotic trade war), and slowing the supply chain across a wide range of goods.

Services are also affected since people aren’t as likely to fly and meet and do business - not when the fears of spreading the disease are increasing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:31:51am

re: #281 Eventual Carrion

Obama is 1 month and 3 days older than me.

August 4, 1961.

I am officially old. He is younger than me (but older than my sister and my wife).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:33:31am

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

Welsh?

Yeah St. David’s Day which means you have to give your Richard Burton statue a shot of liquor. All jokes aside, Wales is a fascinating place with an unique language and the bearers of my Great Nana’s family name were originally Welsh Normans who settled in Western Ireland. One of those Norman families that became more Irish than the Irish themselves which explains her grandmother’s family name- a County Mayo seafaring family.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:33:43am

Huh?

WE SCREEN PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET ON THE PLANE THEN WE SCREEN THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE AGAIN JUST A LITTLE WHILE LATER……WE GOT THIS!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:34:05am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Gee. I was born in 1962. Now you are making me feel old.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:34:40am

re: #281 Eventual Carrion

Obama is 1 month and 3 days older than me.

After Katie Hill left Congress, AOC became the only member of Congress younger than me. Katie’s only a month younger than me so I think we graduated high school the same year. Congresswoman Underwood is our age but she was born in the fall of 86. I was one of the younger but not the youngest in my graduating class.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:35:13am

re: #176 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie’s made a big mistake crapping on the Obama legacy imo.

Obama was too far right and establishment for Bernie purists…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:35:52am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel

Gee. I was born in 1962. Now you are making me feel old.

Okay boomer. // All jokes aside, you were born when the candidate of all the people who hates boomers turned 21. That’s why I find their hatred of Boomers so hilarious. Bernie was a teenager when McCarthy fell apart.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:36:14am

re: #287 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I recognize a little bit because in and around Philly names like Bryn Mawr come up. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:36:45am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama was too far right and establishment for Bernie purists…

Yeah and they’re a minority within the party. I’m to Obama’s left but I appreciated him. There’s no signs to me that anyone in Bernie’s inner circle let alone Bernie himself appreciated the Obama presidency.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:37:16am

re: #288 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Huh?

WE SCREEN PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET ON THE PLANE THEN WE SCREEN THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE AGAIN JUST A LITTLE WHILE LATER……WE GOT THIS!!!

Are they expecting people to become positive during flights?

Can I run the coronavirus response? I’m pretty sure I would do a better job than these morans, and I don’t know crap about epidemiology (but I’d sure listen to the experts).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:37:58am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

After World War II, thousands of Nazis fled to South America along so-called ratlines — often with the help of Catholic clergy.

they were Catholic and that was reason enough for the church to intervene

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:37:58am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel

Gee. I was born in 1962. Now you are making me feel old.

You’re younger than me. You were born in the same year as my wife and my sister.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:39:01am

re: #293 PhillyPretzel

I recognize a little bit because in and around Philly names like Bryn Mawr come up. :)

Ah! I never thought about Bryn Mawr being Welsh. I don’t identify at all with Wales FWIW. But the Joyce clan in Ireland has its origins in Wales via Normandy so I have a small soft spot for Wales because of that and having a cousin who lives there. She married an English guy. Her kids are a bit hard to understand compared with my other cousin and her kids who live in London. Both my cousins have semi British accents now. People think they put it on but it’s real. I found myself using Irish slang a lot after living a month in Ireland.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:39:19am

re: #293 PhillyPretzel

I recognize a little bit because in and around Philly names like Bryn Mawr come up. :)

There is a street in north Chicago named Bryn Mawr. I though it was an Illinois thing.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:40:35am

re: #298 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

One picks it up from being around someone who has an accent. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:41:14am

The fascinating thing about American English is you truly see the influences of so many different languages. That’s why I think making English the official language is silly. Yeah I have no problem calling English our common language but there’s nothing in our principles as a nation that says that Spanish can’t eventually become another one or any other language.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:41:45am

re: #261 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Mexico did it 13 years after declaring its independence from Spain.

in the John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who nonetheless volunteers to stay and help defend Texas.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Jim Bowie tells his slave that he is still property and orders him to go off and report to his family

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:42:20am

re: #299 Anymouse 🌹🎃

re: #298 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Local forecast for Bryn Mawr, PA
forecast.weather.gov

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:42:50am

re: #248 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

And I’m off for a week of cruising the Caribbean, with little or no web access (I can use the break). See you later!

Gone fishing
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:44:20am

re: #301 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The fascinating thing about American English is you truly see the influences of so many different languages. That’s why I think making English the official language is silly. Yeah I have no problem calling English our common language but there’s nothing in our principles as a nation that says that Spanish can’t eventually become another one or any other language.

On the other hand, with so many influences, English might be a good choice. (That, and the British Empire imposed it on about a quarter of the world.)

“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
—James D. Nicoll

I was stuck with a problem tonight. Pick two: You can take your Phenobarbital, your pain medication, or rum.

I chose Phenobarbital and rum. I probably should have chosen the pain meds over the rum.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:45:10am

re: #300 PhillyPretzel

One picks it up from being around someone who has an accent. :)

Yep, I had an American professor when I studied in Galway and one of the guys from the college that put together the orientation was American as well. At first, I thought they were Irish but they were Americans who had grown slight brogues from living there. And even Irish-English is diverse. Someone like the man who taught Irish history class, he was from Ulster somewhere (I think Belfast?) but the man who taught the plays we read in film and literature was from Cork i believe. Totally different accents. I won’t call myself an Irish accent expert but just like not all American accents are the same, it’s the same even in a considerably smaller nation like Ierland.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:45:47am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in the John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who nonetheless volunteers to stay and help defend Texas.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Jim Bowie tells his slave that he is still property and orders him to go off and report to his family

Yep. Real history doesn’t always sell unfortunately.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:45:48am

re: #304 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

And I’m off for a week of cruising the Caribbean, with little or no web access (I can use the break). See you later!

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Have a wonderful trip. Try to avoid viruses lurking in passageways waiting to mug people.

Post photographs, that’s an order.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:46:31am

re: #304 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Enjoy your trip. :)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:46:38am

Eagle nesting season has begun.
Live cams
(I think it’s the same nest, two different cameras)

Decorah Eagles powered by EXPLORE.org

Decorah Eagles - North Nest powered by EXPLORE.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:48:04am

re: #307 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep. Real history doesn’t always sell unfortunately.

The Ron Howard version was not without its historical flaws, but a lot closer than the sun-drenched, heroic John Wayne version.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:48:19am

re: #303 PhillyPretzel

Local forecast for Bryn Mawr, PA
forecast.weather.gov

Warmer than it is here.

We’re scheduled for snow today. Currently it’s sunny (which means it’s past my bedtime).

forecast.weather.gov

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steve_davis  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:49:07am

re: #140 Dave In Austin

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Lindsey’s panties are dripping now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:50:09am

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(video, 8:40)

Utah Outcasts goes after David Barton’s assertions on white people ending slavery in the USA (one of the last countries to do that).

A major alt-right argument is that it was other Africans who sold blacks into slavery.

Which they would not have done without buyers, who were mainly white people.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:50:18am

re: #313 steve_davis

Lindsey’s panties are dripping now.

Eww. NSFW.

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William Lewis  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:50:37am

re: #284 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

It is Catholic practice to give out bread only during communion.

Sometimes, someplaces. The last time I went to an actual Roman Catholic Mass, I didn’t take communion requesting a blessing from the priest instead, however the sacrament was offered in both kinds and yes, from the common cup.

OTOH, the cups are supposed to be naturally antiseptic. If the cup was a source of infection, we’d have killed off a whole lot of people over the centuries…

Shrug. I’m going to Episcopal mass now and I’ll sip from the same gold plated cup everyone else uses.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:51:31am

re: #304 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

And I’m off for a week of cruising the Caribbean, with little or no web access (I can use the break). See you later!

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Don’t take that 3 hour tour, terrible Yelp reviews.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:51:37am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A major alt-right argument is that it was other Africans who sold blacks into slavery.

Which they would not have done without a market, which was mainly white people.

Not just the Nazis alt-right, but conservatives in general. We even got that in my American history lessons in Michigan in high school.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:52:21am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹🎃

On the other hand, with so many influences, English might be a good choice. (That, and the British Empire imposed it on about a quarter of the world.)

I was stuck with a problem tonight. Pick two: You can take your Phenobarbital, your pain medication, or rum.

I chose Phenobarbital and rum. I probably should have chosen the pain meds over the rum.

There’s a difference between a common language- a lingua franca and an official one. The US has gotten by for generations with the former. I’m all for encouraging newcomers to learn English but I would encourage English first speakers and I include myself to learn other languages too or at least to listen for the differences in other languages. My Spanish is terrible as I like telling my sister in law’s family but hey I like trying. I admtitingly watch a lot of foreign stuff so it’s made my ears a little more receptive to the differences within languages and language families. I’m no linguist but I can hear it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:54:08am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Ron Howard version was not without its historical flaws, but a lot closer than the sun-drenched, heroic John Wayne version.

I still need to see that new movie about Robert the Bruce. I’d love to compare that with Braveheart. There’s nothing wrong with a little dramatic license in a historical film but that’s a big fuck up with Bowie.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:55:02am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Eagle nesting season has begun.
Live cams
(I think it’s the same nest, two different cameras)

[Embedded content]

Definitely two separate nests
Just had shift change at this one

Decorah Eagles - North Nest powered by EXPLORE.org

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:56:22am

Hot take on last night’s South Carolina Primary in my regional newspaper (the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, one hour ago):

South Carolina provided Joe Biden with a lifeline he desperately needed, propelled by the power of the black vote, but his victory does not necessarily provide clarity to the race.

Both Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and Sen. Amy Klobuchar finished well behind Biden, but they are still planning to compete in Super Tuesday states. They could draw just enough of the vote to deny Biden the numbers he needs to make the case for a one-on-one competition with Sen. Bernie Sanders.

More: starherald.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:58:17am

re: #319 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s a difference between a common language- a lingua franca and an official one. The US has gotten by for generations with the former. I’m all for encouraging newcomers to learn English but I would encourage English first speakers and I include myself to learn other languages too or at least to listen for the differences in other languages. My Spanish is terrible as I like telling my sister in law’s family but hey I like trying. I admtitingly watch a lot of foreign stuff so it’s made my ears a little more receptive to the differences within languages and language families. I’m no linguist but I can hear it.

Agreed. The only people here in town who speak more than one language are me (English, Spanish, Portuguese), my wife (English, Spanish, Polish), and a Cuban immigrant in town (English, Spanish, Russian).

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steve_davis  Mar 1, 2020 • 6:59:50am

re: #152 Dave In Austin

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:01:03am

re: #320 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still need to see that new movie about Robert the Bruce. I’d love to compare that with Braveheart. There’s nothing wrong with a little dramatic license in a historical film but that’s a big fuck up with Bowie.

The Outlaw King? Started watching it but did not find it compelling. Will have to get back to it at some point

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:01:40am

The Japan Sumo Association took the hint and decided to hold the Osaka basho, which starts in a week, without spectators. This AP article uses the decision to discuss how attempts to stem the coronavirus are affecting many sports in Japan.

TOKYO (AP) — Japanese sumo wrestling is the latest sport to be affected by fears of the new coronavirus outbreak.

On Sunday, national broadcaster NHK reported that officials of the Japan Sumo Association decided to hold the March 8-22 spring grand sumo tournament in Osaka with no spectators in another move aimed at halting the outbreak.

The decision by sumo officials follows a similar move made by Japanese professional baseball which is holding its preseason exhibition games at empty stadiums.

The Yomiuri Giants, Japan’s oldest and most popular team, played Saturday night’s game against the Yakult Swallows at an empty Tokyo Dome. The Giants regularly draw capacity crowds at the 55,000-seat stadium in central Tokyo.

sfchronicle.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:02:25am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Outlaw King? Started watching it but did not find it compelling. Will have to get back to it at some point

Yeah that one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:02:29am

re: #316 William Lewis

Sometimes, someplaces. The last time I went to an actual Roman Catholic Mass, I didn’t take communion requesting a blessing from the priest instead, however the sacrament was offered in both kinds and yes, from the common cup.

OTOH, the cups are supposed to be naturally antiseptic. If the cup was a source of infection, we’d have killed off a whole lot of people over the centuries…

Shrug. I’m going to Episcopal mass now and I’ll sip from the same gold plated cup everyone else uses.

I’m not sure how a chalice could be naturally antiseptic. Gold doesn’t do that.

I haven’t attended many church services. The last Mass I went to was the funeral mass of our county prosecutor’s mother, but as an atheist I did not partake of the Eucharist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:02:48am

re: #319 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s a difference between a common language- a lingua franca and an official one. The US has gotten by for generations with the former. I’m all for encouraging newcomers to learn English but I would encourage English first speakers and I include myself to learn other languages too or at least to listen for the differences in other languages.

And do not forget that there are parts of America where people were speaking Spanish or French long before anyone spoke English, and all over America people were speaking their own native languages long before any Europeans showed up…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:05:42am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:06:22am

Creationism causing harm:

WATCH: A Nigerian Pastor Give A “Spiritual Remedy” To Cure COVID-19

A Nigerian Pastor from the Glorious Mount of Possibility Church is seen in yet another video giving what he called the spiritual remedy to the Coronavirus.

The Pastor is seen in the video giving instructions that you should take a bucket of water and then go into your bedroom and call the name of Jesus 7 times and stir the water and use the water to bath. Dr Elijah is heard in the video calling all other religions to try his remedy which he says will get rid of the novel coronavirus which he calls a demon.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:06:45am

My (first) beautiful baby is 43 (!) years old today!

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steve_davis  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:06:59am

re: #171 Dave In Austin

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Video

LOL! the bear towards the end falling in, then pretending it never happened as he notices the camera.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:07:44am

re: #299 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There is a street in north Chicago named Bryn Mawr. I though it was an Illinois thing.

That’s where I grew up. Bryn Mawr and Lincoln.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:08:04am

re: #331 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And VP Pence will buy it hook, line and sinker.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:08:10am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And do not forget that there are parts of America where people were speaking Spanish or French long before anyone spoke English, and all over America people were speaking their own native languages long before any Europeans showed up…

Yeah that’s what I meant you see it in our language and geographical place names too. I remember visiting Great Falls, Virginia as a kid and there was an explanation that Potomac as in the Potomac River is from a Native American word. The English we speak is so different than that of our grandparents and great grandparents.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:08:46am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And do not forget that there are parts of America where people were speaking Spanish or French long before anyone spoke English, and all over America people were speaking their own native languages long before any Europeans showed up…

When we lived in Oklahoma, wingnuts put on the ballot a referendum to prohibit the state from publishing any official material other than English.

The referendum was pilloried by all sorts of people: Educators noting the language of the bill would prohibit foreign language instruction in elementary or high school, pundits noting that the state would be prohibited from having advertising in foreign languages to attract foreign students to Oklahoma universities, &c.

In protest, the day after the ballot initiative was approved, the Tulsa World put out the entire newspaper edition for that day in Cherokee.

The initiative went down in flaming defeat.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:09:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:12:59am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My (first) beautiful baby is 43 (!) years old today!

Happy remembrance day of an arbitrary point in the Earth’s circuit around the sun! Many more happy orbits to your daughter!

Happy Birthday!
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steve_davis  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:13:00am

re: #193 Targetpractice

So would you say it’s time to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?

/

Why, yes I would, Ken.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:13:14am

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When we lived in Oklahoma, wingnuts put on the ballot a referendum to prohibit the state from publishing any official material other than English.

The referendum was pilloried by all sorts of people: Educators noting the language of the bill would prohibit foreign language instruction in elementary or high school, pundits noting that the state would be prohibited from having advertising in foreign languages to attract foreign students to Oklahoma universities, &c.

In protest, the day after the ballot initiative was approve, the Tulsa World put out the entire newspaper edition for that day in Cherokee.

The initiative went down in flaming defeat.

Non English newspapers have been part of the country from the start. I see wingnuts hate on Univision but Univision is just a modern extension of your old versions of that. Not to mention Jorge Ramos is a great journalist.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:18:15am

On-line poll running in the regional newspaper today: Should felons be allowed to vote in Nebraska upon completing their sentences? The vote total is running 2-1 against.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:22:14am

First three cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Czech Republic.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:27:33am

I guess there is only one city in the world that could inflict this horror on the world.

Scrapple fries are now a thing and you can get them in Philadelphia

If you’re a scrapple fan, have you ever wondered if this Pennsylvania Dutch staple could ever be improved?

Scrapple fries are a thing at two Philadelphia-area restaurants.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:30:48am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Not just the Nazis alt-right, but conservatives in general. We even got that in my American history lessons in Michigan in high school.

Runs hand-in-hand with the conservatives and Confederate apologists going on about how many of the slave shipped were owned/operated out of New England. Servicing a market. And odd how they fail to acknowledge that the Atlantic slave trade was banned by the UK and US in 1807.

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:32:19am

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Man, if it was ever officially reported the Pope contracted COVID-19, the level of panic would be epic.

There are some asshat Catholics who really, really, REALLY hate this pope and would say that it’s God’s judgment on him. Keep in mind, Francis is no liberal, but he’s not the flagellating hardliner that these asshats expect.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:33:13am

re: #343 Dr Lizardo

First three cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Czech Republic.

As many have reported, since four out of five people infected only have minor symptoms, the “reported” cases happen as things get worse. There are likely many people running around Czech Republic who have the virus but are simply not reported because they’ve not been symptomatic enough to warrant attention.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:33:26am

According to 538, the big winner of the SC primary was nobody, now the 59% favorite to win a majority of the delegates by the end of the primaries. Sanders at 30%, Biden at 11% and everyone else combined less than 1%. That isn’t exactly the same as a convention battle, because someone might be close enough to get over the top by receiving endorsements from other candidates who release their delegates. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:34:35am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My (first) beautiful baby is 43 (!) years old today!

My youngest daughter turns 16 on Tuesday. She will be celebrating it in Strasbourg - at the University Hospital, where she was operated on yesterday for a broken leg - skateboarding accident.

She was wearing knee protectors and all, but fell backwards onto her leg and snapped her fibula and tibia just below the knee, took three hours to reassemble the bits and she will spend the next three months on crutches…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:35:04am

re: #343 Dr Lizardo

First three cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Czech Republic.

It is all over Germany

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:35:46am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My youngest daughter turns 16 on Tuesday. She will be celebrating it in Strasbourg - at the University Hospital, where she was operated on yesterday for a broken leg - skateboarding accident.

She was wearing knee protectors and all, but fell backwards onto her leg and snapped her fibula and tibia just below the knee, took three hours to reassemble the bits and she will spend the next three months on crutches…

Ouch! I bet that hurt. Poor baby. My daughter is 16.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:36:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:37:52am

It’s about time for the once-a-month letter from a liberal to my regional paper, so I decided to take someone down from my own village in a response letter.

It ain’t doxxing if it’s in the newspaper and on the paper’s Website. Response below her letter.

starherald.com

My husband is a minister and he would never use the newspaper to point out his opinion of someone else’s sins. Especially the President of The United States.

Jesus told the Pharisee’s in Matthew 22:34-40 that the greatest commandment is the first one, to love God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. The second is like it: to love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. As far as I am concerned, these two commandments should not be questioned as they are personal and between us sinners and God.

Just for the record, all of us sinners who voted for President Trump did not do so because we thought he was Miss Polly Purebreath. We did so because we thought he had guts and would stand up to the corruption in Washington DC and would possibly get stuff done.

Ms. Shirley Gillespie of my town (Broadwater) recently wrote of her support of President Trump, with three paragraphs of appeal to the Bible. She notes Mr. Trump has the guts to stand up to Washington’s corruption, despite Mr. Trump campaigning on the idea he would be the first President to profit off the office (and proving it).

No other president ever thought to charge the Secret Service for golf cart rentals.

President Obama’s administration had no indictments or convictions in eight years for corrupt practices. Mr. Trump is approaching President Nixon’s level of corruption and convicted officials.

Rather than appeals to religious faith (which Mr. Trump does not demonstrate, he is on record saying he needs no forgiveness from God), perhaps we should judge the President on what he’s accomplished. Those accomplishments are pretty thin, aside from the rise in right-wing domestic terrorism against Jews, a trade war devastating our state’s agricultural sector, and a disastrous response to a world-wide pandemic disease.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:38:48am

re: #344 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And those who serve them can keep them. Also keep in mind that Philly has given the food world the hoagie and Tastykakes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:41:38am

re: #352 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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It depends when voters made up their minds. If within the last week, I say it’s good for Biden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:43:53am

re: #351 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Ouch! I bet that hurt. Poor baby. My daughter is 16.

Yes, she was taken first to the hospital in nearby Wissembourg, but they examined the break and transferred her to the university clinic fifty miles away in in Strasbourg. Damn socilized medicine.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:43:59am

re: #353 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m betting the paper won’t print my response letter. Directly attacking Mr. Trump’s policies (such as they are) is a direct path to the round file in my conservapaper. We’ll see though: The resident atheist hasn’t been attacked in the newspaper for a while now.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:47:11am

re: #354 PhillyPretzel

And those who serve them can keep them. Also keep in mind that Philly has given the food world the hoagie and Tastykakes.

True. And Philly Cheesesteaks are a culinary joy. But this knocked you back a peg.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:47:32am

re: #352 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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But does more Bernie make more people open to him? My Dad voted Bernie last time. He didn’t like what he saw in the debates. Said he thought Biden looked presidential. I know a lot of us and I’m among them want structural changes but a lot of voters want a steady leader. And Bernie really isn’t breaking any new ground among young voters. It’s not that he’s not popular with young voters, it’s that he hasn’t shown any other constituency and as someone who has until now been a member of that demo, you can’t count on us to be the only thing pushing a movement. We are lazy about voting compared to other groups.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:49:01am

The EPs show to me that young white people really like Bernie but I don’t know about Hispanics since Nevada was a caucus and the Hispanic vote is diverse too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:51:56am

Stirring the pot:

I was just searching for some pressure cooker recipes and found that about the first thousand hits on Google deal not with ordinary pressure-cookers like grandma used, but with that over-priced, intricately complex 2017 marketing fad and counter-top status symbol, the “Instant Pot.”

I’ll bet there are millions of suburban consumer units (formerly known as “people”) who do not know that pressure cooking was even possible before the high-tech, all-singing, all-dancing “Instant Pot.”

One culinary mastermind had a lengthy article describing how he could turn out perfectly divine spaghetti and meat sauce in just 20 minutes with his magic Instant Pot.

Well I can do that in about 12 minutes with some semi-secret wonder-gadgets known as “pots and pans,” invented 5000+ years ago in Mesopotamia, and assisted by an even more arcane example of ancient wisdom, the Magickal, Mysterious energy-force known as “Fire.”

Yes, I actually assert that I can cook without digital assistance, or electricity of any kind in fact, even sophisticated cuisine like spaghetti and meat sauce. Don’t believe it? Come over during the next failure of our high-tech power grid and I will demonstrate.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:52:50am

re: #358 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well this should work to bring Philly back up there. The world famous Philadelphia Flower Show has opened.
theflowershow.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:54:39am

re: #358 Colère Tueur de Lapin

True. And Philly Cheesesteaks are a culinary joy. But this knocked you back a peg.

Let them eat the scrapple. Leaves more bacon for me.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:56:55am

re: #361 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pretty much all Indian (Asia subcontinent) cooking is predicated on the use of a pressure cooker. They are ubiquitous there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 7:59:54am

re: #364 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Pretty much all Indian (Asia subcontinent) cooking is predicated on the use of a pressure cooker. They are ubiquitous there.

I recall my mom using one for pot roast and stews, but I have never owned one.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:01:32am

re: #359 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But does more Bernie make more people open to him? My Dad voted Bernie last time. He didn’t like what he saw in the debates. Said he thought Biden looked presidential. I know a lot of us and I’m among them want structural changes but a lot of voters want a steady leader. And Bernie really isn’t breaking any new ground among young voters. It’s not that he’s not popular with young voters, it’s that he hasn’t shown any other constituency and as someone who has until now been a member of that demo, you can’t count on us to be the only thing pushing a movement. We are lazy about voting compared to other groups.

I expect if Bernie is the nominee old democrats will turn out to vote for him, but he should bring in more marginal youth voters. An extensive survey, however, did show that youth voting would have to reached unprecedented levels to make up for the swing voters he would turn off for Sanders to be as electable as a more moderate candidate like Biden.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:02:22am

re: #360 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The EPs show to me that young white people really like Bernie but I don’t know about Hispanics since Nevada was a caucus and the Hispanic vote is diverse too.

California should tell us something about that.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:03:19am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My mom had a Presto pressure cooker and used it for corn and a few other things. She always checked the gasket in the lid to make sure it was in good condition.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:05:46am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My youngest daughter turns 16 on Tuesday. She will be celebrating it in Strasbourg - at the University Hospital, where she was operated on yesterday for a broken leg - skateboarding accident.

She was wearing knee protectors and all, but fell backwards onto her leg and snapped her fibula and tibia just below the knee, took three hours to reassemble the bits and she will spend the next three months on crutches…

Ugh, that sounds painful. HBD, though. My boy turned 16 yesterday—leap year boy. Nothing dramatic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:08:09am

re: #367 NO SMOCKING GUN!

California should tell us something about that.

It should yes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:12:22am

If the paper does print my letter, I expect another round of death threats on my answering machine and in my mail from local Christians of all denominations (again), which I will turn over to the county sheriff (again), and get no resolution (again).

Like my last letter (which sunk my reëlection campaign) when I debunked the idea atheists are the cause of all mass shootings in the USA, I also expect to receive a bunch of cards and letters from closeted atheists in the Panhandle thanking me for being out in the open and standing up.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:15:06am

re: #361 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Stirring the pot:

I was just searching for some pressure cooker recipes and found that about the first thousand hits on Google deal not with ordinary pressure-cookers like grandma used, but with that over-priced, intricately complex 2017 marketing fad and counter-top status symbol, the “Instant Pot.”

I’ll bet there are millions of suburban consumer units (formerly known as “people”) who do not know that pressure cooking was even possible before the high-tech, all-singing, all-dancing “Instant Pot.”

One culinary mastermind had a lengthy article describing how he could turn out perfectly divine spaghetti and meat sauce in just 20 minutes with his magic Instant Pot.

Well I can do that in about 12 minutes with some semi-secret wonder-gadgets known as “pots and pans,” invented 5000+ years ago in Mesopotamia, and assisted by an even more arcane example of ancient wisdom, the Magickal, Mysterious energy-force known as “Fire.”

Yes, I actually assert that I can cook without digital assistance, or electricity of any kind in fact, even sophisticated cuisine like spaghetti and meat sauce. Don’t believe it? Come over during the next failure of our high-tech power grid and I will demonstrate.

LOL.

My wife isn’t interested in fancy gadgets like an Instapot. She has a pressure cooker for that, and you can’t use it for canning like our pressure canner.

Plus you can’t make waffles in an Instapot, you really need our Sunbeam waffle iron from the Forties for that.

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:16:21am

Well, this is an interesting twist on the South Korean coronavirus outbreak:

The leader of a religious sect in South Korea could face a homicide investigation over some of the country’s coronavirus deaths.

The city government of the capital Seoul has asked prosecutors to charge Lee Man-hee, the founder of the Shincheonji Church, and 11 others.

They are accused of hiding the names of some members as officials tried to track patients before the virus spread.

bbc.com

Members of the Shincheonji church are reliably reported to keep their affiliations to the church secret. As you can imagine, this is making it difficult for the government to trace the virus.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:28:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:30:18am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He has done all of that and plenty more that isn’t reported.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:30:57am

You know the Berners will be screaming conspiracy is there are no official counts within minutes, and the networks start calling races base on exit polling

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:32:51am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

You know the Berners will be screaming conspiracy is there are no official counts within minutes, and the networks start calling races base on exit polling

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Will they do that when Vermont is immediately called for Bernie on Tuesday? Bernie benefits from his younger supporters not understanding how this works.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:33:03am

So if one feels a cold coming on, see the Doc at this point?

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calochortus  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:34:11am

re: #378 Rightwingconspirator

So if one feels a cold coming on, see the Doc at this point?

Nah, I’d say call the doctor if you have an unusually bad cold-and stay home in the meanwhile.

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lizardofid  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:38:44am

re: #360 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The EPs show to me that young white people really like Bernie but I don’t know about Hispanics since Nevada was a caucus and the Hispanic vote is diverse too.

I’m not sure why, but Bernie seems to have made big inroads among Texas Latinos in the last couple of months.

dallasnews.com

Oh, good morning!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:42:21am

re: #263 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Honestly didn’t notice until I saw this and I watched a lot of MSNBC last night.

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Enjoy your retirement Chris.

I am sure this is just a mild, one-time punishment, but the writing is on the wall

They’ll probably give Brian Williams his slot but I would like someone partisan in that hour.

Bye Bye Tweety!

Still remember when Tweety was one of the Four Horsemen leading the charge for Clinton’s impeachment along with Maureen Dowd, Michael Kelly and Tim Russert. All four of them endlessly trashed Bill and Hillary. When Bill was impeached by the House I remember Tweety saying he couldn’t wait till Bill was arrested and imprisoned!

Oh and who could forget Tweety and his pal Gordon Liddy popping a tent when Bush crawled out of the jet with a sock in his jock?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:43:05am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

You know the Berners will be screaming conspiracy is there are no official counts within minutes, and the networks start calling races base on exit polling

In the last election, it took nearly a month for the state to certify my reëlection campaign (which I lost by two votes). Funny, there was no Brooks Brothers riot over that.

These things take time. A lot of Sanders’s supporters don’t seem to understand that.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:45:37am

re: #284 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

It is Catholic practice to give out bread only during communion.

And also practice to take bread during all other times.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:45:56am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

FOX News Channel viewers: RINOs.

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calochortus  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:48:10am

re: #379 calochortus

Nah, I’d say call the doctor if you have an unusually bad cold-and stay home in the meanwhile.

And I say this as someone who has been feeling exhausted and hacking up a lung for (checks calendar) 9 days now which is really unusual for me. However, in my case I know exactly where I got this, my granddaughter, and if covid-19 were running rampant in her daycare we’d probably have heard by now.

I have decided I’ve been sick long enough and it’s time to get over this. Let’s see how willpower works on this thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:48:48am

This warm weather has moved allergy season ahead, so I am sneezing a lot…and worrying every time I sneeze.

And as I mentioned upthread, had to go to the hospital in Strasbourg to visit daughter with broken leg and sign parental release forms…that does nothing to calm my nerves.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:48:53am

re: #380 lizardofid

I’m not sure why, but Bernie seems to have made big inroads among Texas Latinos in the last couple of months.

dallasnews.com

Oh, good morning!

My wife canvassed for Bernie in 2016 here in New England. She was paired with a couple of different young people, both of whom were latino and came up from the southwest. One was taking time off before going to law school. Anyway, I think there was already some support in 2016, and from what I understand, the young folks do a good job of talking to their parents.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:49:09am

re: #328 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Brass is antimicrobial, but wouldn’t be effective in the one right after another assault on a communion cup.

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:49:35am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Eagle nesting season has begun.
Live cams
(I think it’s the same nest, two different cameras)

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Our eagles here are nesting.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:50:06am

re: #388 Amory Blaine

Copper too.

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William Lewis  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:50:20am

re: #388 Amory Blaine

Brass is antimicrobial, but wouldn’t be effective in the one right after another assault on a communiont cup.

Combine the metal and alchohol in the wine?

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:51:28am

re: #316 William Lewis

Sometimes, someplaces. The last time I went to an actual Roman Catholic Mass, I didn’t take communion requesting a blessing from the priest instead, however the sacrament was offered in both kinds and yes, from the common cup.

OTOH, the cups are supposed to be naturally antiseptic. If the cup was a source of infection, we’d have killed off a whole lot of people over the centuries…

Shrug. I’m going to Episcopal mass now and I’ll sip from the same gold plated cup everyone else uses.

Back when I used to go to Methodist communion, we had tiny individual glasses, with special trays with holes in to hold them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:53:04am

re: #385 calochortus

And I say this as someone who has been feeling exhausted and hacking up a lung for (checks calendar) 9 days now which is really unusual for me. However, in my case I know exactly where I got this, my granddaughter, and if covid-19 were running rampant in her daycare we’d probably have heard by now.

I have decided I’ve been sick long enough and it’s time to get over this. Let’s see how willpower works on this thing.

Well, someone went and looked at reports of how many people had flu symptoms but did not test positive for the usual flu virus (a sort of non-flu flu) and found multiple cases in the USA back over the past couple of months. So the virus might have already hopped to the US a while back but has been running under the radar so to speak since it didn’t identify as the usual flu types since the older tests are only good for those types.

(It’s a bit like in the Jurassic Park book the computer counts the dinosaurs and says “OK they are accounted for” but the test is that there are up to X of each type located - not that there might be more than X since they started breeding.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:53:08am

Time for dinner: Ramen noodles with Trinidad scorpion hot sauce.

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:53:13am

re: #322 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hot take on last night’s South Carolina Primary in my regional newspaper (the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, one hour ago):

More: starherald.com

Where’s Elizabeth? This is CRAZY!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:54:46am

re: #369 Barefoot Grin

Ugh, that sounds painful. HBD, though. My boy turned 16 yesterday—leap year boy. Nothing dramatic.

So, he’s really four.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:55:43am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel

Gee. I was born in 1962. Now you are making me feel old.

1956 here. 7 months away from applying for Medicare, but will still have to work afterwards another 4 years for a full pension.

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lizardofid  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:55:55am

re: #387 Barefoot Grin

My wife canvassed for Bernie in 2016 here in New England. She was paired with a couple of different young people, both of whom were latino and came up from the southwest. One was taking time off before going to law school. Anyway, I think there was already some support in 2016, and from what I understand, the young folks do a good job of talking to their parents.

Yeah. And youth is a large percentage of the Latino vote in Texas (as elsewhere I’m sure)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:57:18am

re: #395 retired cynic

Where’s Elizabeth? This is CRAZY!

She’s about halfway down the page in that article.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:57:35am

If the Coronavirus goes away Trump will act like he singlehandedly saved everyone.

And imagine if one the Pharma companies heavily backing Republicans just so happens to get a vaccine out there (even if it’s useless) around say early October…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:59:00am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:59:14am

re: #385 calochortus

And I say this as someone who has been feeling exhausted and hacking up a lung for (checks calendar) 9 days now which is really unusual for me. However, in my case I know exactly where I got this, my granddaughter, and if covid-19 were running rampant in her daycare we’d probably have heard by now.

I have decided I’ve been sick long enough and it’s time to get over this. Let’s see how willpower works on this thing.

I am still recovering from my trip to Chicago in late December-early January. I am still coughing pretty severely, which the VA says is normal for a severe case of the flu.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:59:27am

re: #380 lizardofid

I’m not sure why, but Bernie seems to have made big inroads among Texas Latinos in the last couple of months.

dallasnews.com

Oh, good morning!

I see that. I just wonder how big those are. And I wonder how big they’re going to be when his immigration record comes out and also Sierra Blanca. I’m just saying. We heard that Bernie was making inroads with South Carolinians and Biden wiped him out. It’s too early to tell for sure but I think you can’t dispute that Biden has had the most convincing win of any of the four primaries. I know Bernie won in Nevada but that was a caucus so I wonder how big that really was. I

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 8:59:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:00:54am

Some jackass posted a share if you don’t think she belongs in Congress in my town’s FB page. I responded that Congresswoman Omar is bound to lose here in VA-10, oh wait. A lot of people got that I was mocking. Unfortunately, one lady who did defend Omar didn’t get my smartassery and I tried to explain it but at laest most people are saying this shit is stupid and bigoted.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:01:48am

re: #392 retired cynic

Back when I used to go to Methodist communion, we had tiny individual glasses, with special trays with holes in to hold them.

I recall those from my family members attending church in my hometown. Tiny shot glasses with grape juice, just like Jesus drank it.

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calochortus  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:01:58am

re: #393 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Well, someone went and looked at reports of how many people had flu symptoms but did not test positive for the usual flu virus (a sort of non-flu flu) and found multiple cases in the USA back over the past couple of months. So the virus might have already hopped to the US a while back but has been running under the radar so to speak since it didn’t identify as the usual flu types since the older tests are only good for those types.

(It’s a bit like in the Jurassic Park book the computer counts the dinosaurs and says “OK they are accounted for” but the test is that there are up to X of each type located - not that there might be more than X since they started breeding.)

There’s also a late-arriving flu strain that wasn’t in the vaccine, so there have been people getting that. It’s a mess. What I don’t get is the urge to sweep it all under the rug and just keep going. But that’s just me.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:03:32am

re: #392 retired cynic

Back when I used to go to Methodist communion, we had tiny individual glasses, with special trays with holes in to hold them.

That’s how my wife’s Lutheran church does it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:03:48am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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calochortus  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:05:59am

re: #402 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I am still recovering from my trip to Chicago in late December-early January. I am still coughing pretty severely, which the VA says is normal for a severe case of the flu.

Yuck. I hope you’re better soon. In my case, it’s just some random respiratory virus that happened to hit me fairly hard. No fever or anything. I was needed for emergency babysitting when the granddaughter was sick, so I wasn’t surprised to get it. Babies are not careful about sharing their body fluids. Handwashing and the like can only go so far in dealing with that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:07:17am
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lizardofid  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:09:11am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Watching Pence spin his lies is excruciating. He can’t sit still. Is the something called “swaying in earnest” that they teach in grifter class?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:10:04am

I want to throw shit

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:10:06am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:10:37am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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But how dare you bring up Barron’s name or say that the Covington kids acted like entitled brats. Meanwhile CPAC’s great Deutsche hope to Greta turned out to be a Molyneaux fan. Way to go CPAC!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:11:03am

re: #409 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Washington state is showing how to respond to this. Pence is showing how not to.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:11:03am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I want to throw shit

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“Disturbing events.”

FFS

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:11:08am

My Uncle Frank would have been 99 today.

He died one month before he became entitled to Medicare. His employer forced him to retire 3 months early thanks to Michael Millken’s overloading the company with junk bonds. When Uncle Frank was forced off they severely cut his health insurance to an annual limit of $1,000. Uncle Frank had a massive heart attack on December 10, 1985 and he passed on December 21, 1985. Hospital bill over $45,000. Oh and that cheap ass health insurance didn’t pay a penny because Uncle Frank had a “pre-existing condition”. So my aunt was forced to sell her home.

Oh and she blamed that on the Democrats. Why? because that’s what her Pulpit Pimp Preacher told her.

This is why I hate Michael Millken with every last subatomic particle in my body. That son of a bitch should have been locked up for life. Trump’s pardon of that parasite only doubles down my hatred of that thug!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:11:26am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I want to throw shit

Next on 60 Minutes: Misunderstood SEAL, or war criminal? Watch our magic balance fairy and YOU decide.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:11:51am

re: #417 Targetpractice

“Disturbing events.”

FFS

We now return to Walter Cronkite’s touching interview with William Calley followed by Peter Jennings talking to hte heroes of Abu Ghraib. //

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:13:25am

Cold-blooded murder is now “disturbing events.”

Yes, kids, we are the baddies.

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jaunte  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:14:06am

Pence is doing a great job destroying any remaining trust in government spokespeople.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:15:10am

re: #415 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But how dare you bring up Barron’s name or say that the Covington kids acted like entitled brats. Meanwhile CPAC’s great Deutsche hope to Greta turned out to be a Molyneaux fan. Way to go CPAC!

Wholly crap. Betcha this guy claims to be a good Bible believin’ Christian, since he’s from Alberta.

He has removed his profile from LinkedIn. I can’t imagine why.

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jaunte  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:17:26am

re: #423 Anymouse 🌹🎃

As if it would be an appropriate response if she was 30.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:19:17am

re: #424 jaunte

As if it would be an appropriate response if she was 30.

Rape is funny lol but let’s get outraged about any mocking of Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:20:48am

re: #424 jaunte

As if it would be an appropriate response if she was 30.

More Alberta:

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:21:39am

This seems like something that should be answered and reckoned with.

But you know, purity and all.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:21:44am

re: #424 jaunte

As if it would be an appropriate response if she was 30.

The company shut off their comments on LinkedIn. Cowards.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:24:14am

re: #392 retired cynic

Back when I used to go to Methodist communion, we had tiny individual glasses, with special trays with holes in to hold them.

And then little holders on the back of the pew in front of us to put them in so that they could be collected after the service.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:24:54am

I’m getting a strong McGovern vibe to this whole election. Despite Tang the Terrible being such a complete fuckup, the rat copulation and Talibern left are quite formidable

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:25:14am

re: #389 retired cynic

Our eagles here are nesting.

This nest has at least 2 eggs. had a great view of them as the parental unit was adjusting their position

Decorah Eagles powered by EXPLORE.org

Can’t believe I’m still watching these cams. I was just about to close both windows, but not now

lol

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:25:54am

re: #427 Citizen K

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This seems like something that should be answered and reckoned with.

But you know, purity and all.

These guys are proving why communists never get elected. They just have to be dicks to everyone. Kinda like libertarians. Newsflash, people don’t like absolutist assholes in charge of their government.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:26:22am

re: #430 BigPapa

I’m getting a strong McGovern vibe to this whole election. Despite Tang the Terrible being such a complete fuckup, the rat copulation and Talibern left are quite formidable

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:26:43am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Fucking disgraceful.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:27:08am

re: #430 BigPapa

I’m getting a strong McGovern vibe to this whole election. Despite Tang the Terrible being such a complete fuckup, the rat copulation and Talibern left are quite formidable

I dunno. I think it could have turned out that way but I really think Biden’s on a nice rebound sterak right now. We’ll see what happens on Tuesday but we’ve had three very prominent Virginia Democrats come out for Biden. Virginia Democrats aren’t the Bernie left.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:27:45am

re: #432 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

These guys are proving why communists never get elected. They just have to be dicks to everyone. Kinda like libertarians. Newsflash, people don’t like absolutist assholes in charge of their government.

Normal people don’t, Trump supporters love conservative absolutists.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:27:57am

Also Trump is no Nixon. And Corona is going to put a huge hamper on the whole “I’m the great economic manager.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:28:41am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Normal people don’t, Trump supporters love conservative absolutists.

Which is why I’m not worried about them succeeding. Trump has lost one of his few cards- the economy. Biden meanwhile is looking presidential.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:29:08am

GOP ratfuck strategy: either get Bernie nominated, or barring that, get the Bernie supporters to turn their backs on the Democrats and stay home in November.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:29:09am

re: #435 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I dunno. I think it could have turned out that way but I really think Biden’s on a nice rebound sterak right now. We’ll see what happens on Tuesday but we’ve had three very prominent Virginia Democrats come out for Biden. Virginia Democrats aren’t the Bernie left.

I’m hoping Super Tuesday crushes St Bernardus. He hung around and cancered Hillary, I don’t know if we can afford that now. He had and will again have lots of help. It’s right in front of our face.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:30:21am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Normal people don’t, Trump supporters love conservative absolutists and/or assholes.

Yes, lets not forget how many Trump supporters and conservative voters in general love assholes just for being assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:31:21am

re: #439 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP ratfuck strategy: either get Bernie nominated, or barring that, get the Bernie supporters to turn their backs on the Democrats and stay home in November.

What we need is the vast group of radical centrists who rarely or never vote to turn out against Pumpkin Pinochet. Though the GOP engaged in voter suppression in the last election, “Did Not Vote” would have been the winner in forty-five states if that was a candidate on the ballot.

Turn out Democrats and enough disgusted non-voters, and Trump and the GOP Senate go down in flames.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:31:26am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

JFC.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:32:24am

re: #443 Eclectic Cyborg

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JFC.

Oh my fucking lord, these people are ghouls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:33:07am

re: #441 Citizen K

Yes, lets not forget how many Trump supporters and conservative voters in general love assholes just for being assholes.

which is why I generally don’t argue with Trump supporters: they love him for all the very reasons we cannot stand him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:33:55am

re: #443 Eclectic Cyborg

Narang said she called the general manager of X-Site, Doug Sparrow, asking him if he knew about the sticker that appears to depict the rape of a minor. He said he was aware of it, according to Narang, and his response was, “She’s not a child, she’s 17.”

“Fifteen is marryin’ age where I come from!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:35:10am

This seems like a big deal
I assume any other policy actions by Ken Cuccinelli, while he was installed as the Acting Director of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, will be subject to legal challenges now (he’s been the Acting United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security since mid-November)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:35:19am

LOL

Tom Steyer Exits Race After His Plaid Tie’s Crushing Loss In SC Primary (Wonkette, more at the link):

Eccentric billionaire Tom Steyer staked his entire presidential campaign on a strong performance in Saturday’s South Carolina Primary. He dropped almost $20 million in the Palmetto State and all he achieved was keeping Pete Buttigieg under 10 points. Although I think that’s money well spent, Steyer himself is less sanguine. He’s joining the other Tim Ryans on the island of misfit candidates.

STEYER: I said if I didn’t see a path to winning, then I’d suspend my campaign. And honestly, I can’t see a path where I can win the presidency.

There was never any path for Steyer, and I could’ve told him this before he wasted $253 million. You could buy at least two fixer uppers in Seattle for that kind of money. His mess of a campaign wasn’t entirely self-funded. He did ask economic mortals for contributions of at least $1 so he could meet the individual donor threshold and loophole his way onto the debate stage. That grassroots support came out to $3,555,597 total, which is about $10 million less than what people have donated to Tulsi Gabbard, presumably by accident.

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:35:49am

re: #429 Barefoot Grin

And then little holders on the back of the pew in front of us to put them in so that they could be collected after the service.

In our church, we came up to the alter by rows, knelt and the alter had the a wooden shelf with holes drilled in it. A lay person passed one of the plates of bread cubes and another the tray with holes in it. Assembly line. Methodists for germ control!

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:35:49am

re: #433 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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That’s the constant trait of radicals of any stripe: They have a greater hatred for those who preach moderation than they do those who openly oppose them. Why? Because (in their minds) the former are helping the latter by preaching against “revolution.” That their believe the only way to succeed is total adherence to their doctrine, anything less is to give the enemy a means to defeat them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:37:54am

re: #448 Anymouse 🌹🎃

LOL

Tom Steyer Exits Race After His Plaid Tie’s Crushing Loss In SC Primary (Wonkette, more at the link):

I don’t like Steyer. I do like knowing that he’s going to use his new found influence to help Jamie Harrison down there and I love that Biden gave a shout out to both Jamie and Joe Cunningham and of course Rep Clyburn. I won’t claim to be an expert but I think rank and file Dems like knowing that our candidate’s going to help ensure we keep our majority in Congress and regain the SEnate. And honestly the best choice for that right now is probably Biden.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:38:21am

re: #447 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This seems like a big deal
I assume any other policy actions by Ken Cuccinelli, while he was installed as the Acting Director of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, will be subject to legal challenges now (he’s been the Acting United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security since mid-November)

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I’ve doubts that this will be the last time we see policies/actions by “acting” secretaries challenged in the courts as invalid.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:38:27am

re: #447 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This seems like a big deal
I assume any other policy actions by Ken Cuccinelli, while he was installed as the Acting Director of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, will be subject to legal challenges now (he’s been the Acting United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security since mid-November)

Wow, Ken Cuccinelli ruled “unlawfully installed in office” and all his decisions “null and void.” Dayum. That coupled with the ruling that banning asylum seekers from staying in the country whilst their claims are processed is unlawful will cause Trump to blow a gasket.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:38:36am

re: #447 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This seems like a big deal
I assume any other policy actions by Ken Cuccinelli, while he was installed as the Acting Director of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, will be subject to legal challenges now (he’s been the Acting United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security since mid-November)

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Oh man, fingers crossed on that. Any chance the Supremes get their mitts on this ruling and 5-4 it the other way?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:39:27am

re: #450 Targetpractice

That’s the constant trait of radicals of any stripe: They have a greater hatred for those who preach moderation than they do those who openly oppose them. Why? Because (in their minds) the former are helping the latter by preaching against “revolution.” That their believe the only way to succeed is total adherence to their doctrine, anything less is to give the enemy a means to defeat them.

I’m not a big FDR fan but because every Bernie fan from here to here wants to retcon FDR as a Democratic Socialist:
“A radical is a man with both feet firmly planted—in the air. A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs, who, however, has never learned to walk forward. A reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards. A liberal is a man who uses his legs and hands at the behest of his head.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:41:16am

Cuccinelli was awful here. I wish I had worked in the state senate campaign that nearly got rid of him because without that, I doubt he’s AG of Virginia, then GOP nominee that loses to T-Mac that gets Trump’s attention. Though I’m sure Kris Kobach or someone equally awful would probably doing this shit if Cooch wasn’t. Was proud of O’Malley, who I was disappointed didn’t do better last primary calling him out on his shit in the flesh.

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BigPapa  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:44:51am

I’d support a billionaire if he supported the party and coalition first before themselves. Drop big to support the best candidate, run for smaller office showing you’re committed for the long haul, doing the work, not a vanity project.

Bloomberg should blow big on Tang the Terrible, run for Senate and do a term being a great senator. This gives him time to reconcile his very problematic past, confront it, and allow voters to choose on that.

Otherwise, fuck em.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:45:42am

re: #450 Targetpractice

That’s the constant trait of radicals of any stripe: They have a greater hatred for those who preach moderation than they do those who openly oppose them. Why? Because (in their minds) the former are helping the latter by preaching against “revolution.” That their believe the only way to succeed is total adherence to their doctrine, anything less is to give the enemy a means to defeat them.

The frustrating thing is, economically, I’m probably far more along Bernie’s end of things than anything else. I just know that, done wrong, you can either get policies that are briskly undone or undermined to toothlessness, or just won’t pass at all. That’s why shit doesn’t get passed on the Green Lantern Theory, where willing it strong enough magically makes policy pass and remain invincibly.

That’s what scares me about the Berners. They believe the Green Lantern Theory to a T, and deride and demonize any attempts to do things step by step as incrementalism, which is one-step removed from full blown conservative fascism in their eyes. There’s no inbetween, and if they can’t get their way and only their way, they’re willing to let everything burn down because only then can they rebuild in their perfect image of utopia.

It’s so goddamn draining and deflating trying to fight it back.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:45:47am

It is rare we have crime here beyond things like a burglary or drug dealing.

The last murder around here was in Angora (pop. 1, and that wasn’t the person killed) in 2014.

The bodies of two people who had been reported missing were found Friday at a storage unit in northwest Scottsbluff.

The storage unit’s owner and his son were found dead in the unit. The Scott’s Bluff County Sheriff is treating it as homicide, though he says there is nothing indicating foul play. They have been missing since Feb. 18.

starherald.com

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:47:56am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Fifteen is marryin’ age where I come from!”

Still was here 40 years ago, anyway.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:49:06am

re: #458 Citizen K

The frustrating thing is, economically, I’m probably far more along Bernie’s end of things than anything else. I just know that, done wrong, you can either get policies that are briskly undone or undermined to toothlessness, or just won’t pass at all. That’s why shit doesn’t get passed on the Green Lantern Theory, where willing it strong enough magically makes policy pass and remain invincibly.

That’s what scares me about the Berners. They believe the Green Lantern Theory to a T, and deride and demonize any attempts to do things step by step as incrementalism, which is one-step removed from full blown conservative fascism in their eyes. There’s no inbetween, and if they can’t get their way and only their way, they’re willing to let everything burn down because only then can they rebuild in their perfect image of utopia.

It’s so goddamn draining and deflating trying to fight it back.

Well, I hate to be that guy, but I’m gonna twist the knife further: A Bernie presidency is only going to further their delusions, rather than undermine them. Either he’ll end up being forced to compromise to get anything done, at which time they’ll be convinced that he was a false messiah and go looking for someone even nuttier (Hello, Stein) or he’ll go all 4 years without getting anything he promised into law and lead the Berners to conclude that what defeated him was not a total adherence to dogma but instead some shadowy effort by the Dems to ensure that their progressive ideals were demolished.

Neither scenario leads anywhere good.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:52:28am

re: #454 Citizen K

Oh man, fingers crossed on that. Any chance the Supremes get their mitts on this ruling and 5-4 it the other way?

Of course they will. The Republicans have 5 rubber stamps on that corrupted institution.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:52:56am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Well, I hate to be that guy, but I’m gonna twist the knife further: A Bernie presidency is only going to further their delusions, rather than undermine them. Either he’ll end up being forced to compromise to get anything done, at which time they’ll be convinced that he was a false messiah and go looking for someone even nuttier (Hello, Stein) or he’ll go all 4 years without getting anything he promised into law and lead the Berners to conclude that what defeated him was not a total adherence to dogma but instead some shadowy effort by the Dems to ensure that their progressive ideals were demolished.

Neither scenario leads anywhere good.

If I didn’t feel the consequences for our country were so important, I’d almost kind of welcome a Bernie presidency to show them the foolishness of electing a 79 year old man who has probably told the kids to get off his lawns a few times. I get wanting parts of the Bernie agenda. I will never get wanting Bernie to be the instrument of that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:57:42am

Where to begin….

Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?

Actually I don’t think they’re necessarily stupid, just evil. Besides, in the information age, ignorance is a choice so Trump-stupid is a form of evil in and of itself.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:59:14am

re: #439 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP ratfuck strategy: either get Bernie nominated, or barring that, get the Bernie supporters to turn their backs on the Democrats and stay home in November.

I think the answer is in South Carolina: give a reason for blacks to vote. It’s what pushed Obama over 50%.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 9:59:41am

re: #463 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If I didn’t feel the consequences for our country were so important, I’d almost kind of welcome a Bernie presidency to show them the foolishness of electing a 79 year old man who has probably told the kids to get off his lawns a few times. I get wanting parts of the Bernie agenda. I will never get wanting Bernie to be the instrument of that.

The Berniebots here ignore that The Old Fart With A Bad Heart needs a working majority in the House AND Senate to pass anything and that is NOT going to happen.

As I posted before Bernie will have his hands tied the minute he gets in. McConnell will block anything the House passes and add in that the courts are stacked with every asshole McConnell could shoehorn in. If the Congress doesn’t block Bernie the activist Federalist Society asshole judges will step in to block Bernie.

Just watch when Republicans subpoena Jane Sanders and grill her about her shenanigans. Watch how the courts flip and force every Berniebot to obey Congressional subpoenas. Oh and you can count on the CCCP to go on the offensive against Comrade Bernie. The Republican Bullshit Machine will go into overdrive to trigger a GOP landslide in 2022 running a Freedom Vs. Socialism campaign. And then I truly fear the GOP nominating Trump Jr or Ivanka to take us back to the “golden days of MAGA”…and winning in a landslide…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:00:32am

re: #463 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“get off his lawnS”

I see what you did there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:00:37am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:02:17am

re: #466 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Berniebots here ignore that The Old Fart With A Bad Heart needs a working majority in the House AND Senate to pass anything and that is NOT going to happen.

As I posted before Bernie will have his hands tied the minute he gets in. McConnell will block anything the House passes and add in that the courts are stacked with every asshole McConnell could shoehorn in. If the Congress doesn’t block Bernie the activist Federalist Society asshole judges will step in to block Bernie.

Just watch when Republicans subpoena Jane Sanders and grill her about her shenanigans. Watch how the courts flip and force every Berniebot to obey Congressional subpoenas. Oh and you can count on the CCCP to go on the offensive against Comrade Bernie. The Republican Bullshit Machine will go into overdrive to trigger a GOP landslide in 2022 running a Freedom Vs. Socialism campaign. And then I truly fear the GOP nominating Trump Jr or Ivanka to take us back to the “golden days of MAGA”…and winning in a landslide…

See, this is why I’m on board with Biden. I want a nominee that’s going to do all he can to make sure Amy McGrath (D-KY) is a reality and I think Democratic voters see that. You are right though. If Bernie’s the nominee, it’s red baiting ads everywhere. And yes I know they’ve been calling us socialists for years.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:03:32am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Well, I hate to be that guy, but I’m gonna twist the knife further: A Bernie presidency is only going to further their delusions, rather than undermine them. Either he’ll end up being forced to compromise to get anything done, at which time they’ll be convinced that he was a false messiah and go looking for someone even nuttier (Hello, Stein) or he’ll go all 4 years without getting anything he promised into law and lead the Berners to conclude that what defeated him was not a total adherence to dogma but instead some shadowy effort by the Dems to ensure that their progressive ideals were demolished.

Neither scenario leads anywhere good.

I will also add something I forgot to mention in my previous post that there’s a damn good chance that what does manage to pass follows the same problem high-minded socialist or social democratic policies tend to end up with: leaving non-whites and vulnerable populations behind or even offering them up for sacrifice in order to solidify support from those ‘Real Americans’ we’re told to worship so much. The mockery of intersectionality and “identity politics” while trying to use the whitewashed spectre of MLK to support their policies just makes me very wary and reminds me how easily blacks, latinos, women, etc. can get left out in the cold yet again in the mad rush for the perfect M4A or whatnot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:06:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:07:21am

re: #464 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Where to begin….

Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?

Actually I don’t think they’re necessarily stupid, just evil. Besides, in the information age, ignorance is a choice so Trump-stupid is a form of evil in and of itself.

A beautiful straw-man argument designed to paint liberals as elitists and haters of the Heartland.

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BeachDem  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:08:06am

re: #451 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t like Steyer. I do like knowing that he’s going to use his new found influence to help Jamie Harrison down there and I love that Biden gave a shout out to both Jamie and Joe Cunningham and of course Rep Clyburn. I won’t claim to be an expert but I think rank and file Dems like knowing that our candidate’s going to help ensure we keep our majority in Congress and regain the SEnate. And honestly the best choice for that right now is probably Biden.

One more interesting factoid from the SC exit polling. Biden even beat Bernie in the Bern’s two main issue categories:

MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN VOTE
Healthcare (41% of voters)
Biden 50%
Sanders 22%

Income Inequality (21% of voters)
Biden 45%
Sanders 23%

Of course, the Berners’ response is “uninformed, uneducated voters who just can’t see that Bernie is the best thing that ever happened to them.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:09:08am

re: #472 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Another reason why I prefer Biden to Bernie. Biden would definitely push for a federal ban on discrimination based off of sexuality. Bernie would be too busy going about the millionaires.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:09:23am

I honestly believe Bernie won’t finish a term. He’ll be under such pressure that he will crack.

And if Berniebots have their way at the convention pairing him with Tulsi or Nina Turner…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:10:10am

re: #472 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

LOLWUT?

The only thing I hate about these sorts of suits is they come out of the education budget.

I’d rather see the person who made the decision ruined.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:10:35am

Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?

Uh, because a lot of Trump supporters constantly act in such a way as to prove this theory.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:10:38am

re: #474 BeachDem

One more interesting factoid from the SC exit polling. Biden even beat Bernie in the Bern’s two main issue categories:

MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN VOTE
Healthcare (41% of voters)
Biden 50%
Sanders 22%

Income Inequality (21% of voters)
Biden 45%
Sanders 23%

Of course, the Berners’ response is “uninformed, uneducated voters who just can’t see that Bernie is the best thing that ever happened to them.”

Exactly. I’ve said it. I’m to Biden’s left but I trust him to get stuff done. I don’t trust Shouty Grouchy. And I think most Democratic voters outside the college kids do too. Voters have short memories. Bernie hasn’t looked presidential at all lately. IMO ever but people who may have flirted with Bernie may have a different opinion now.

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:10:38am

Sort of related to what we are talking about now.

I thought the Iranian Revolution would bring freedom. I was wrong. by Shirin Ebadi, WaPo.

I write this letter to my daughters and their generation, 41 years after a revolution that my generation helped to bring about. I hope you forgive us for the mistake we made. Although we did not intend it, we have darkened your world.
Yes, we wanted to make the world a better place. We were dreamers. We dreamed of creating a country where both human rights and human dignity would be guarded by strong democratic institutions. We thought that we had every right to translate these beautiful ideas into reality.
Yet the border between idealism and naivete is sometimes blurred. In our idealism, we were naive enough to think that the cleric Ruhollah Khomeini was the man to make our dreams come true. It is hard to admit it, but we started to follow him even though we knew very little about his vision for Iran. Millions of people were enchanted by him. They were captivated by his charisma without reading any of his books or listening to him in an open and free debate. …

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:11:15am

re: #478 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?

Uh, because Trump supporters constantly act in such a way as to prove this theory.

The fact that Trump is President answers the question. You elected a reality show host President.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:11:49am

re: #480 retired cynic

Sort of related to what we are talking about now.

I thought the Iranian Revolution would bring freedom. I was wrong. by Shirin Ebadi, WaPo.

Change should be constant in society but true revolutions rare.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:13:20am

re: #476 Joe Bacon 🌹

I honestly believe Bernie won’t finish a term. He’ll be under such pressure that he will crack.

And if Berniebots have their way at the convention pairing him with Tulsi or Nina Turner…

I don’t trust him at all to have a competent cabinet behind him that’s for sure. Yeah I do worry about Biden’s health and age though I do think he’s in better shape than Bernie or Trump but I of those three and Bloomberg trust him to have the most competent cabinet. Biden’s going to pick a VP you know can fill in. If anyone knows how important VP is, it’s Biden. Obama valued the VP as a key member of the administration and not the guy who goes on Limbaugh when a potential pandemic is happening.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:13:28am

re: #470 retired cynic

My headline would be a dozen or so republican and Independent Senators plus x democrat…

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A Cranky One  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:15:12am

re: #478 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do Liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?

Uh, because a lot of Trump supporters constantly act in such a way as to prove this theory.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:15:12am

I’m going to bail out now. I’m tired and I need to elevate my foot.

Catch y’all later.

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:15:57am

re: #482 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Change should be constant in society but true revolutions rare.

Yes.

She also said, which I had not remembered, that when the Shah became ill, he delegated his power to his PM and he was a reformer. She said they gave him no chance. Turns out this woman was a highly placed judge! She sure had the intellect to check Khomeini out. She did not. As soon as the “revolution” happened, she was stripped of her office, because women can’t be in positions of power. She said Khomeini lied about that. Imagine!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:17:16am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:20:13am

Thread, ten tweets. I’m out now.

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BeachDem  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:21:22am

re: #481 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The fact that Trump is President answers the question. You elected a reality show host President.

When I voted yesterday, there were two poll workers. I could tell, just from her affect, that one was definitely a Republican. When I showed my ID, they noted that I had a Real ID license. The Trumpette said it was a good thing if I was going to fly anywhere. I said, yeah, but I also have a passport, so I was good either way. She got terribly indignant and said no, a passport was no good for travel because you needed a federal ID. I said a passport IS a federal ID, but she continued arguing. I just rolled my eyes, took my ballot and went to the voting machine…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:22:09am

re: #489 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Thread, ten tweets. I’m out now.

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I am in a high risk group, male, 60+…I had quit smoking until the run in with daughter and skateboard…fell off the wagon last night and light up three cigs, first ones since December…

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:23:55am

He’s absolutely willing to burn down the entire Dem party with purity pony bullshit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:26:03am

re: #492 Citizen K

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He’s absolutely willing to burn down the entire Dem party with purity pony bullshit.

This is what will sink him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:28:16am

re: #489 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Thread, ten tweets. I’m out now.

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I am in a similar position. I live in a heavily GOP state that turned down the Medicaid expansion to own the Libs and although I am healthy, many other people I know, including my own wife and mother in law, have conditions that would complicate things were they to contract the virus.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:29:32am

re: #494 Eclectic Cyborg

I am in a similar position. I live in a heavily GOP state that turned down the Medicaid expansion to own the Libs and although I am healthy, many other people I know, including my own wife and mother in law, have conditions that would complicate things were they to contract the virus.

Just watch what happens in the Red States that turned down Medicaid when their hospital emergency rooms are overloaded!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:31:21am

re: #495 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just watch what happens in the Red States that turned down Medicaid when their hospital emergency rooms are overloaded!

They will blame Obama or something…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:32:26am

re: #492 Citizen K

A Dude who owns three homes and is worth over $1 million trying to convince you he is “for the working class” is a little suspicious.

Just for once I’d love to see a political candidate who actually IS middle or working class. We need some fresh perspective here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:32:27am

re: #490 BeachDem

When I voted yesterday, there were two poll workers. I could tell, just from her affect, that one was definitely a Republican. When I showed my ID, they noted that I had a Real ID license. The Trumpette said it was a good thing if I was going to fly anywhere. I said, yeah, but I also have a passport, so I was good either way. She got terribly indignant and said no, a passport was no good for travel because you needed a federal ID. I said a passport IS a federal ID, but she continued arguing. I just rolled my eyes, took my ballot and went to the voting machine…

Where did she think you get a passport, from a Cracker Jack box?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:32:52am

And I get another nasty IM from a DSA member slamming me for betraying “our revolution” right now.

These assholes are incapable of comprehending that they’re doing precisely what Trump wants!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:33:57am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

If the Coronavirus goes away Trump will act like he singlehandedly saved everyone.

And imagine if one the Pharma companies heavily backing Republicans just so happens to get a vaccine out there (even if it’s useless) around say early October…

If the death toll of GOP Senators by October is less than six Trump will declare victory over it.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:34:09am

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Where did she think you get a passport, from a Cracker Jack box?

Oh no! She’s probably as stupid as a relative who told me that passports are screened by…THE DEEP STATE!!!!

GASP!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:34:55am

re: #492 Citizen K

He’s absolutely willing to burn down the entire Dem party with purity pony bullshit.

Hell, it’s not like he cares about the Dem party. Only thing the party means to him is ballot access

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:36:35am

re: #499 Joe Bacon 🌹

And I get another nasty IM from a DSA member slamming me for betraying “our revolution” right now.

These assholes are incapable of comprehending that they’re doing precisely what Trump wants!

Yikes man. See, that’s why I don’t like Bernie. I don’t see anything democratic about him and what he’s doing. I’m a small letter d- democrat first. I definitely lean left economically but I don’t like being told to bow before Bernie especially after a night where he lost every county. I’m hoping Bernie loses and fades into the background. I really think he’s sold a lot of people especially people my age a raw deal.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:37:17am

re: #502 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hell, it’s not like he cares about the Dem party. Only thing the party means to him is ballot access

He quite honestly is the most egotistical successful left wing politician I’ve seen in this country.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:39:28am

re: #491 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am in a high risk group, male, 60+…I had quit smoking until the run in with daughter and skateboard…fell off the wagon last night and light up three cigs, first ones since December…

Same for me, fifty-nine, smoker, latent TB. Covid-19 would sink me. My wife has diabetes (which seems to exacerbate the risk).

There is one case in Nebraska four hundred miles away in quarantine. As far as I know, that’s the closest one to me. Close by in Colorado and Wyoming, there are no confirmed cases (though four tests are pending in Colorado, twelve others tested negative).
colorado.gov
health.wyo.gov

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:39:38am

I had a Berner when I told another person that Bernie’s a guarantee to disillusion people tell me :THEY’RE ALREADY DISILLUSIONED WITH CAPITALISM.” The problem is what we’ve been sold is the only form of capitalism. I’m more amiable to social democracy than most elected Democrats are but I also know the operative word is democracy, you have to show people that it’s going to work.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:39:39am

re: #492 Citizen K

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He’s absolutely willing to burn down the entire Dem party with purity pony bullshit.

This is the guy we’re told is “bringing new people into the party!” Meanwhile, last I checked, the youth vote in SC was around 10% of the total turnout.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:42:49am

re: #419 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Next on 60 Minutes: Misunderstood SEAL, or war criminal? Watch our magic balance fairy and YOU decide.

I gave up on 60 Minutes decades ago. My mother watched it fairly regularly. And then they covered something one evening (in the mid-80s?) that I knew much more background on than the usual. And it became very clear to me that Morley Safer wasn’t conducting a fair interview*, that the show was expressing an inherent bias and spin on the issue, and what I was watching was not impartial journalism since the facts were being selectively reported.

* - At least based on the edited bits they displayed of what was probably a longer and more complex interview.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:42:52am

re: #499 Joe Bacon 🌹

And I get another nasty IM from a DSA member slamming me for betraying “our revolution” right now.

These assholes are incapable of comprehending that they’re doing precisely what Trump wants!

Here a lot of DSA members support Sen. Sanders, but the group doesn’t have an official position besides “get rid of Trump.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:43:16am

re: #504 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He quite honestly is the most egotistical successful left wing politician I’ve seen in this country.

Never forget, Bernie represents the 2nd least populated state in the country

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:44:59am

re: #506 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I had a Berner when I told another person that Bernie’s a guarantee to disillusion people tell me :THEY’RE ALREADY DISILLUSIONED WITH CAPITALISM.” The problem is what we’ve been sold is the only form of capitalism. I’m more amiable to social democracy than most elected Democrats are but I also know the operative word is democracy, you have to show people that it’s going to work.

For people who think Bernie is the new FDR, they really don’t understand that what FDR did was simply make capitalism work for more people than the rich. That at a major economic crisis in the US, the last thing that the country wanted or needed was bankers being hung from lampposts. His opponents called him a communist not because he was seizing the means of production to turn over to workers, but because he was saying that those companies needed to “share the wealth.”

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:46:06am

re: #473 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The trouble is that in order to get people to see Trump for the fraud and con man he is you have to get them to see themselves as the fools and suckers they’ve been.

-Lance Mannion

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:46:21am

re: #510 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Never forget, Bernie represents the 2nd least populated state in the country

Which also happens to be one of the whiter states of the Union as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:47:49am

re: #510 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Never forget, Bernie represents the 2nd least populated state in the country

And a state less diverse than my family tree :).

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lizardofid  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:48:16am

re: #506 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I had a Berner when I told another person that Bernie’s a guarantee to disillusion people tell me :THEY’RE ALREADY DISILLUSIONED WITH CAPITALISM.” The problem is what we’ve been sold is the only form of capitalism. I’m more amiable to social democracy than most elected Democrats are but I also know the operative word is democracy, you have to show people that it’s going to work.

Agreed. The key moving forward will be finding a way to restore the the concept of political spectrum to such a highly polarized electorate, no?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:49:02am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Well, I hate to be that guy, but I’m gonna twist the knife further: A Bernie presidency is only going to further their delusions, rather than undermine them. Either he’ll end up being forced to compromise to get anything done, at which time they’ll be convinced that he was a false messiah and go looking for someone even nuttier (Hello, Stein) or he’ll go all 4 years without getting anything he promised into law and lead the Berners to conclude that what defeated him was not a total adherence to dogma but instead some shadowy effort by the Dems to ensure that their progressive ideals were demolished.

Neither scenario leads anywhere good.

And if Bernie’s not dead by 2024 they’ll insist he gets a direct nomination for another term without any discussion by the Democratic Party regarding policy, alternatives, etc.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:51:28am

re: #513 Targetpractice

Which also happens to be one of the whiter states of the Union as well.

Biden’s Delaware is small too but Delaware is one of the more diverse of the smaller states. Not just racially but in terms of the economy. The southern part near where I used to go to the beach is tourism driven and agricultural. The middle and north is more suburban and banking and service industry. I wish more young people would look at Biden’s entrance into national politics. Winning election against a popular incumbent in the McGovern landslide and not even 30 years old and then losing his wife and daughter the way he did. I understand that not everyone is gaga for Biden because yeah we as Democrats do best when we pass the torch typically but Biden’s a resilient guy and I hope last night was just another chapter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:51:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:52:14am

re: #512 jeffreyw

-The trouble is that in order to get people to see Trump for the fraud and con man he is you have to get them to see themselves as the fools and suckers they’ve been.

that applies to many, but other, better educated and informed supporters are just cynical fuckers who see Trump as a tool they can use to implement their agenda. That plan has worked to a great extent, only the full repeal of ACA has not gone in their favor.

the only Trump supporters I can begin to understand (although I still do not agree with them) are the ones who figure that since the whole system is going to collapse anyways, why not let Trump speed up the inevitable?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:53:59am

re: #516 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And if Bernie’s not dead by 2024 they’ll insist he gets a direct nomination for another term without any discussion by the Democratic Party regarding policy, alternatives, etc.

And they’ll complain again about rules that they’ll be making. Bernie’s the only one who contributed to the primary rules this year running. Not Biden. Not Pete. Not Liz. Not Amy. Not Bloomberg. They’ve been more than fair with him. His supporters though remain his worst asset though.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Well, I hate to be that guy, but I’m gonna twist the knife further: A Bernie presidency is only going to further their delusions, rather than undermine them. Either he’ll end up being forced to compromise to get anything done, at which time they’ll be convinced that he was a false messiah and go looking for someone even nuttier (Hello, Stein) or he’ll go all 4 years without getting anything he promised into law and lead the Berners to conclude that what defeated him was not a total adherence to dogma but instead some shadowy effort by the Dems to ensure that their progressive ideals were demolished.

Neither scenario leads anywhere good.

Want to know how a Bernie Presidency would be?

Google Culbert Olson, the Social Democrat elected California Governor in 1938.

en.wikipedia.org

The key paragraphs:

Olson’s tenure in the governorship began to a rocky start. Olson collapsed four days after his inauguration. Doctors discovered that Olson was suffering from an ailing heart.

Olson’s relationship with the California State Legislature was often bitter. With conservative Democrats controlling the Assembly, and business friendly Republicans in the Senate, Olson had little room to promote his New Deal politics, while the Legislature remained wary of Olson’s leftist agenda. By the first year of his governorship, Olson’s proposed budget was cut by nearly 100 million dollars, plus the Governor’s proposal of compulsory universal health insurance for every Californian was defeated. The Legislature also defeated legislation to raise income, bank and corporate taxes, as well as Olson’s proposed bills to regulate lobbyists and reform the state penal system. State subsidized relief for farmers was also nearly cut in half.[5]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:56:43am

If Bernie was just a guy known to be a liberal voice of conscience like the late Paul Wellstone, it might be one thing. I don’t trust Bernie to prioritize key issues that will face us after Trump is gone. And I sure as shit don’t trust him to have the right people in place. Yes, I will vote for him if it comes to that but Bernie will be redder than borscht to a lot of the American public by Columbus Day.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:57:03am

re: #519 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that applies to many, other, better educated and informed supporters are just cynical fuckers who see Trump as a tool they can use to implement their agenda. That plan has worked to a great extent, only the full repeal of ACA has not gone in their favor.

the only Trump supporters I can begin to understand (although I still do not agree with them) are the ones who figure that since the whole system is going to collapse anyways, why not let Trump speed up the inevitable?

I understand the ones who openly cheer his racist policies and support them.

I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.

The ones I don’t get are like the woman from my town who I responded to in the newspaper this morning (up the thread) touting Trump’s fight against corruption and his accomplishments.

All I can figure out around here is the media desert I live in, with nothing but a right-wing regional newspaper, and hate and Christian radio stations. (We are at the very edge of NPR’s broadcast footprint from their transmitter in Alliance.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:58:35am

re: #523 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I understand the ones who openly cheer his racist policies and support them.

I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.

The ones I don’t get are like the woman from my town who I responded to in the newspaper this morning (up the thread) touting Trump’s fight against corruption and his accomplishments.

All I can figure out around here is the media desert I live in, with nothing but a right-wing regional newspaper, and hate and Christian radio stations. (We are at the very edge of NPR’s broadcast footprint from their transmitter in Alliance.)

We live in the age of the New Media Reality and it is unlike any we have seen before.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 10:59:56am

I’ll be honest, of all the candidates that are still left in the field, Bernie is one of only two who would make me seriously consider voting third party (Tulsi being the other). After 4 years of treating those who voted for Trump as either willing stooges or useful idiots, I’ve no desire to become one under a Bernie presidency.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:03:03am

re: #525 Targetpractice

I’ll be honest, of all the candidates that are still left in the field, Bernie is one of only two who would make me seriously consider voting third party (Tulsi being the other). After 4 years of treating those who voted for Trump as either willing stooges or useful idiots, I’ve no desire to become one under a Bernie presidency.

I would vote for him if I had to but I’m a lot less easy about than I was four years ago. I really do not like how undemocratic a campaign he is running and I do not like the gaslighting of his advisers. He is the most like Trump of anyone running. I’m not talking ideologically. I am talking about his personality and I hope like hell Warren brings up the issues about the way women have been treated in his campaign because it won’t mean as much coming from Biden.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:03:13am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:04:40am

re: #527 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Afghanistan’s going to be even worse when we entered it and Trump’s going to be bitching about why didn’t he get a Nobel for negotiating with the Taliban.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:05:38am

re: #527 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Oh goodies, folks, we’re in the early days of the next Dem president being accused of “abandoning” Afghanistan.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:07:40am

I had been doing so well keeping my addition under control. But it just happened. There she is, on the side of the parking lot at the local Aldi’s. I turn my eyes to the front door of the store and try not to look. I take care of my trade in the store and emerge into the sunlight. A sweet, alluring voice wishes me a good day. I turn toward the voice and it is my old nemesis, dressed in a panda outfit. She is holding the object of my desire. I can’t help myself, I break down. Oh well, at least I got away only purchasing 2 boxes of Thin Mints rather than 6.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:07:59am

re: #529 Targetpractice

Oh goodies, folks, we’re in the early days of the next Dem president being accused of “abandoning” Afghanistan.

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We are forever cleaning up Republican messes which is why I want to run up the score in Congress and in the PV and hope like hell because of Trump that the amnesia suddenly appear.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:09:00am

re: #526 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I would vote for him if I had to but I’m a lot less easy about than I was four years ago. I really do not like how undemocratic a campaign he is running and I do not like the gaslighting of his advisers. He is the most like Trump of anyone running. I’m not talking ideologically. I am talking about his personality and I hope like hell Warren brings up the issues about the way women have been treated in his campaign because it won’t mean as much coming from Biden.

All I’m really seeing so far in Bernie’s campaign is all the negative aspects of Trump’s without much in the way of positives. Both men were “outsiders” who latched onto a major party because running third party bids was suicidal, who have tried to beat the party into submission rather than work within it, and both are plowing forward under the belief that either you’re with them or against them. Combine that with the noxious atmosphere that the Dirtbag Left has brought into the primaries with his half-assed blessing and it’s hard as fuck for me to personally justify voting for him for any reason other than he’s nominally a Democrat.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:11:22am

re: #530 Eventual Carrion

I had been doing so well keeping my addition under control. But it just happened. There she is, on the side of the parking lot at the local Aldi’s. I turn my eyes to the front door of the store and try not to look. I take care of my trade in the store and emerge into the sunlight. A sweet, alluring voice wishes me a good day. I turn toward the voice and it is my old nemesis, dressed in a panda outfit. She is holding the object of my desire. I can’t help myself, I break down. Oh well, at least I got away only purchasing 2 boxes of Thin Mints rather than 6.

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jaunte  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:11:36am

This is so exciting, I just got a personal email from Lara Trump.

Friend,

I need to ask you something.

Why haven’t you entered to win dinner with President Trump in Palm Beach, Florida yet?

The President saw the list of Patriots who have already entered and he noticed that your name was MISSING. At first, he couldn’t believe his eyes, but I told him that there was no mistake and that you really haven’t entered yet.

He asked me to reach out to you because he REALLY wants to meet you and can’t imagine having anyone else there with him.

Don’t forget, if you win:

We’ll cover your flight
We’ll make sure you have a very nice place to stay
We’ll cover your meal
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:12:45am

re: #506 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I had a Berner when I told another person that Bernie’s a guarantee to disillusion people tell me :THEY’RE ALREADY DISILLUSIONED WITH CAPITALISM.” The problem is what we’ve been sold is the only form of capitalism. I’m more amiable to social democracy than most elected Democrats are but I also know the operative word is democracy, you have to show people that it’s going to work.

I think what they don’t get is that progress has to be obtained *despite the efforts of people opposed to those changes*. You don’t get to proclaim the new system by fiat, but via the ugly legislative process that is slow and often a step back for every two steps forward.

Trashing the system for “the revolution” isn’t going to bring the utopia into being. Humans do not work that way, and societies get very ugly once their safety nets start to fray.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:12:49am

re: #534 jaunte

This is so exciting, I just got a personal email from Lara Trump.

Oh goodie, the “winner” of this contest can join the exclusive club…of people who’ve “won” something from Trump only to never see any sort of pay-off.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:13:40am

re: #532 Targetpractice

All I’m really seeing so far in Bernie’s campaign is all the negative aspects of Trump’s without much in the way of positives. Both men were “outsiders” who latched onto a major party because running third party bids was suicidal, who have tried to beat the party into submission rather than work within it, and both are plowing forward under the belief that either you’re with them or against them. Combine that with the noxious atmosphere that the Dirtbag Left has brought into the primaries with his half-assed blessing and it’s hard as fuck for me to personally justify voting for him for any reason other than he’s nominally a Democrat.

No doubt. And you know what I despise? The idea that he’s beloved by Millennials. I hate that. I know a lot who do like him but I know a lot of others who feel the same way we do and then there are others like my childhood best friend who says he dislikes Trump but finds Trump amusing and wants to watch a Trump-Bernie shit show.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:13:58am

re: #536 Targetpractice

Oh goodie, the “winner” of this contest can join the exclusive club…of people who’ve “won” something from Trump only to never see any sort of pay-off.

“Jesus gonna get me that free ticket!”

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:14:20am

re: #525 Targetpractice

I’ll be honest, of all the candidates that are still left in the field, Bernie is one of only two who would make me seriously consider voting third party (Tulsi being the other). After 4 years of treating those who voted for Trump as either willing stooges or useful idiots, I’ve no desire to become one under a Bernie presidency.

I will vote for him if he’s the nominee, encourage others to do so, and push them to vote for a Democratic Congress. Unlike the GOP, Bernie won’t have control of Congressional Democrats.

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jaunte  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:14:27am

re: #536 Targetpractice

I’m stunned that Trump has the time to personally review lists of supporters and detected my name missing. What a stunning feat of mentation.

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jaunte  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:15:01am

Maybe that’s why he’s a little behind on pandemic response.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:15:18am

re: #538 Joe Bacon 🌹

“Jesus gonna get me that free ticket!”

Much better chance winning a free ticket in the lotto.

543
Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:15:52am

re: #539 Belafon

I will vote for him if he’s the nominee, encourage others to do so, and push them to vote for a Democratic Congress. Unlike the GOP, Bernie won’t have control of Congressional Democrats.

I’d vote third party at the top of the ticket and blue the rest of the way down. Thankfully, my compatriots north of the Richmond Line are beginning to drag this state (kicking and screaming) into the 20th century.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:16:07am

re: #533 Targetpractice

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I have an inside source in the GSA. She recommended the lemon cookies though we got smores when I spent the day at my brother’s to watch the Fury-Wilder fight. She’s got unique tastes for a soon to be six year old but then again she wanted to know what everyone thought about Eisenhower when she saw Eisenhower on an old presidents ruler. Yep she’s my niece all right.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:16:51am

re: #540 jaunte

I’m stunned that Trump has the time to personally review lists of supporters and detected my name missing. What a stunning feat of mentation.

I think Jared is on that in between meetings about the opioid crisis, Middle East peace, and general jet-setting with Ivanka.

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stpaulbear  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:19:21am

re: #431 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This nest has at least 2 eggs. had a great view of them as the parental unit was adjusting their position

Can’t believe I’m still watching these cams. I was just about to close both windows, but not now

lol

Here’s another eagle cam very close to downtown St. Paul. It’s near a major road and an airport so there is a ton of traffic noise. It’s actually warm enough (low 50’s) today that I’ve heard a couple of motorcycles go by.

Nongame Wildlife EagleCam.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:19:25am

re: #535 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think what they don’t get is that progress has to be obtained *despite the efforts of people opposed to those changes*. You don’t get to proclaim the new system by fiat, but via the ugly legislative process that is slow and often a step back for every two steps forward.

Trashing the system for “the revolution” isn’t going to bring the utopia into being. Humans do not work that way, and societies get very ugly once their safety nets start to fray.

They have a distinctively undemocratic side to them. They don’t care about building a real coalition. They love to cite FDR but they know nothing about how the New Deal came to be and if they did things their way, they would be dealing with legal challenge after legal challenge. Not to mention Bernie wouldn’t get shit done. So he would eventually be forced into ruling similiarly to Trump via the EOs and then you’d get a fresh face young Republican in 2024 running against “President Sanders’ inability to work with Congress.” Hell he would probably allow someone whose presidential ambitions we want buried to be revived.

548
Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:23:26am

re: #543 Targetpractice

I’d vote third party at the top of the ticket and blue the rest of the way down. Thankfully, my compatriots north of the Richmond Line are beginning to drag this state (kicking and screaming) into the 20th century.

I still want Trump out of office. I will not be surprised if we have to replace a couple of justices next term. Two of the most likely ones are Democrats. Even if Democrats refuse to seat anyone, the court will be more conservative than now.

549
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:23:48am

re: #547 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Biden would be a voluntary one-term President, Bernie, if he survived his first term, would not get a second.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:24:09am

re: #547 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They have a distinctively undemocratic side to them. They don’t care about building a real coalition. They love to cite FDR but they know nothing about how the New Deal came to be and if they did things their way, they would be dealing with legal challenge after legal challenge. Not to mention Bernie wouldn’t get shit done. So he would eventually be forced into ruling similiarly to Trump via the EOs and then you’d get a fresh face young Republican in 2024 running against “President Sanders’ inability to work with Congress.” Hell he would probably allow someone whose presidential ambitions we want buried to be revived.

Way I see it, a President Sanders would take office just in time to deal with all the shitstorms that Trump has managed to either avoid or hold off, swamping out most of his agenda for at least the first year. Then, just as he starts trying to get momentum behind his proposals, Congressional Dems will be starting their midterm election campaigns, freezing all but the more “moderate” ideas under the hope that being seen as opposed to him will save the party’s ass.

It won’t, we’ll see a bloodbath in the polls in 2022, leading to a resurgent GOP in 2023 immediate declare a total hold on any legislation from Bernie and promising to run the following year on opposition to “four more years of socialist failure.” Assuming he hasn’t keeled over by then, Bernie will find himself running in 2024 like Carter in 1979: A broken man pleading for a second chance against an opponent who’s promising to “restore” America to greatness yet again.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:25:20am

re: #548 Belafon

I still want Trump out of office. I will not be surprised if we have to replace a couple of justices next term. Two of the most likely ones are Democrats. Even if Democrats refuse to seat anyone, the court will be more conservative than now.

A vote for Bernie in my district wouldn’t make much of a difference, the biggest surprise of the midterms was that we finally seated a Dem here for the first time in ages. And I’m more worried about getting her elected to a second term than I am putting an ossified hippy in the White House.

552
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:27:38am

re: #550 Targetpractice

Way I see it, a President Sanders would take office just in time to deal with all the shitstorms that Trump has managed to either avoid or hold off, swamping out most of his agenda for at least the first year. Then, just as he starts trying to get momentum behind his proposals, Congressional Dems will be starting their midterm election campaigns, freezing all but the more “moderate” ideas under the hope that being seen as opposed to him will save the party’s ass.

It won’t, we’ll see a bloodbath in the polls in 2022, leading to a resurgent GOP in 2023 immediate declare a total hold on any legislation from Bernie and promising to run the following year on opposition to “four more years of socialist failure.” Assuming he hasn’t keeled over by then, Bernie will find himself running in 2024 like Carter in 1979: A broken man pleading for a second chance against an opponent who’s promising to “restore” America to greatness yet again.

Yep. And honestly while I know I’m probably in the minority here, I don’t mind Biden agreeing to do one term. I see the Democratic leadership in a transition phase on a federal level in a lot of ways. I think by the end of the next presidency, we will have new leadership in the House and Senate. Not because people dislike Pelosi but because Pelosi probably wouldn’t mind retiring but with a Speaker she knows will leave the party in good hands. My hope right now is it’s someone like Schiff or Jeffries, I was impressed with the impeachment managers. What I like about Pelosi is she knows talent.

553
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:29:27am

re: #551 Targetpractice

A vote for Bernie in my district wouldn’t make much of a difference, the biggest surprise of the midterms was that we finally seated a Dem here for the first time in ages. And I’m more worried about getting her elected to a second term than I am putting an ossified hippy in the White House.

I’m worried about losing Wexton too man. And I see how seriously she takes her job. And she realy stood out to me when she signed the petition I was working on to get Periello on the ballot. That was a friendly primary. I hated that the national media made it about Bernie v Clinton. I will say this. Governor Northam’s been more progressive than I thought he would be.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:30:12am

re: #532 Targetpractice

All I’m really seeing so far in Bernie’s campaign is all the negative aspects of Trump’s without much in the way of positives. Both men were “outsiders” who latched onto a major party because running third party bids was suicidal, who have tried to beat the party into submission rather than work within it, and both are plowing forward under the belief that either you’re with them or against them. Combine that with the noxious atmosphere that the Dirtbag Left has brought into the primaries with his half-assed blessing and it’s hard as fuck for me to personally justify voting for him for any reason other than he’s nominally a Democrat not Trump.

My variant of the above.

555
Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:30:27am

Time to call it a day…up early for work tomorrow. Have a good one, Lizards.

556
Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:30:53am

re: #551 Targetpractice

A vote for Bernie in my district wouldn’t make much of a difference, the biggest surprise of the midterms was that we finally seated a Dem here for the first time in ages. And I’m more worried about getting her elected to a second term than I am putting an ossified hippy in the White House.

A vote for president is a state level vote unless you’re in Nebraska or Maine. And we have to run up the score against Trump.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:33:04am

re: #472 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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WTF is so controversial about that photo? Jeez these people sometimes (Ok, too many times)

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:34:15am

Simple questions regarding Bernie, no matter how far out there you think he is:
Do you think he’ll keep putting people in concentration camps and separating families?
Do you think he’ll keep building that crappy wall?

I can’t stand the guy enough that I’m going to change my vote Tuesday. But there are things we’re going to have to fix, that we can’t do with Trump in office.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:34:58am

re: #557 Eventual Carrion

WTF is so controversial about that photo? Jeez these people sometimes (Ok, too many times)

The photo isn’t controversial. The controversial part was she mentioned she was with her wife.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:35:28am

re: #530 Eventual Carrion

I had been doing so well keeping my addition under control. But it just happened. There she is, on the side of the parking lot at the local Aldi’s. I turn my eyes to the front door of the store and try not to look. I take care of my trade in the store and emerge into the sunlight. A sweet, alluring voice wishes me a good day. I turn toward the voice and it is my old nemesis, dressed in a panda outfit. She is holding the object of my desire. I can’t help myself, I break down. Oh well, at least I got away only purchasing 2 boxes of Thin Mints rather than 6.

I broke down and bought two boxes since someone was selling them at the vet I was taking Chat Noir to. Short breads and the Lemon cookies.

And I have to ration them pretty severely since I’m watching the carb and sugar intake closely due to the diabetes. (Meds currently have my A1C around 6.5 - so things are sorta under control.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:36:48am

re: #559 Belafon

The photo isn’t controversial. The controversial part was she mentioned she was with her wife.

fiancee

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:38:54am

re: #543 Targetpractice

I’d vote third party at the top of the ticket and blue the rest of the way down. Thankfully, my compatriots north of the Richmond Line are beginning to drag this state (kicking and screaming) into the 20th century.

I won’t vote a third party at the top of the ticket. No third party has a chance to defeat Trump.

Sanders seems he would be a poor president. Trump would be an unmitigated disaster for a second term (plus plenty more theft from the US Treasury).

For me the first and foremost goal is get rid of Trump and every one of the loons, buffoons, poltroons, crooks, schnooks, bell ends, dead ends, and split ends in his cabinet.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2020 • 11:55:17am

re: #449 retired cynic

In our church, we came up to the alter by rows, knelt and the alter had the a wooden shelf with holes drilled in it. A lay person passed one of the plates of bread cubes and another the tray with holes in it. Assembly line. Methodists for germ control!

We were a country club Presby church. The ushers brought everything to us!

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LadyBehir  Mar 1, 2020 • 12:27:56pm

Jezus Lawd help me. I got a guy posting that crap about bovine rotavirus/bovine coronavirus vaccine being proof that the gov’ts knew about this virus ages ago and that there’s a cure. Won’t believe that it is not the same virus. The stupid is strong in this one.


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